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home in Indiana

05-15-2005 05:31:17

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I got a new trailer and I'm not sure what size plates that I need to get. Does the plate size need to include the weight of the cargo and trailer? The trailer is a 25' goose neck that will be hauling a Case 4x4 E backhoe.Thanks in advance for all the advice I recieve from you guys.

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Ray,IN

05-15-2005 22:34:57

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Re: what size plates to get for trailer in reply to home in Indiana, 05-15-2005 05:31:17

Legally Indiana requires plates for the trailer GVW. I have 5K plates on my 24' flatbed hay trailer, and they cost $57 to renew. The legal liability of being underplated in a PI crash is very real.

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John M

05-15-2005 13:06:21

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Re: what size plates to get for trailer in reply to home in Indiana, 05-15-2005 05:31:17

I took my title to the DMV and they gave me a plate,permanent tag one time fee of 90 bucks.Tag fell off and got ruined by a big Mack behind me,hadnt worried about it since!Now,I dont go out of state much to start with,let along hauling something,never stopped at a weigh station and have never been stopped for not doing it or for anything else related top my trailer or hauling something,heck I have only got one ticket and that was because my yougset just happen to fiqure out how to unbuckle his carseat and get out just as the cop got beside me!

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Dave Mattson

05-15-2005 12:15:12

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Re: what size plates to get for trailer in reply to home in Indiana, 05-15-2005 05:31:17

Don't forget, if You don't have farm plates, You need a Class A CDL to pull a trailer over 10,000 # GVW

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Ray,IN

05-15-2005 22:22:03

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Re: what size plates to get for trailer in reply to Dave Mattson, 05-15-2005 12:15:12

Old wives tale again. Check it out yourself.

USDOT

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Ray

05-15-2005 11:24:50

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Re: what size plates to get for trailer in reply to home in Indiana, 05-15-2005 05:31:17

In ohio any trailer over 4000 pounds is classified as commercial,others are non-commercial,weight doesn't matter.A friend gets trailer tags from kentucky for 25 bucks.

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RayP(MI)

05-15-2005 10:27:18

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Re: what size plates to get for trailer in reply to home in Indiana, 05-15-2005 05:31:17

Be glad you"re not in Michigan, they"ve gone to lifetime plates, at comparable fees. When I got my last bill from the Secy. of State, "bout knocked my socks off. Probably your state has a website with fees for various trailer weights, I"d check there first.

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jhill

05-16-2005 04:27:20

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Re: what size plates to get for trailer in reply to RayP(MI), 05-15-2005 10:27:18

I don't think it is so bad. My 2 axle was $275 but that is for as long as I own trailer. Can hit hard the first year.

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Greywolf

05-15-2005 10:10:50

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Re: what size plates to get for trailer in reply to home in Indiana, 05-15-2005 05:31:17

Minnesota a PU has normal plates just like a car. Until you reach 1 ton status. 1/2 and 3/4 ton PU makes no difference if private, commercial, whatever, carry the same type of plate.

Trailer get licensed for combined trailer weight and load.

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MSM

05-15-2005 08:07:24

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Re: what size plates to get for trailer in reply to home in Indiana, 05-15-2005 05:31:17

Tags will depend on where you are going to go with the trailer. If you are staying in your home state,you should contact either the State police or DMV to see what options are open to you(regular trailer plates,farm plate etc.) If you are going out of state,this is where the the fun starts. Since you will be carring a backhoe,which to most scale employees means COMMERCIAL USE,you will need to be tagged properly,insured and DOT placarded as well.The not for hire/private use sign won't fly,you will have to stop for scales etc.Make sure your tow vehicle has ample Manufactures Rated capacity for truck,trailer and load,which in your case will need to be in the 30,000# range.

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earlschieb

05-15-2005 07:40:33

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Re: what size plates to get for trailer in reply to home in Indiana, 05-15-2005 05:31:17

Yes, in Indiana, you get the plate to match your total trailer gross weight, as in, if your trailer has 2 7000lb axles, and is rated at 14000 lb, that is what weight of trailer plate to buy, or as close to that as they issue. I have a new H&H Speedloader trailer, it is rated for 7000 lb., so I bought the 7000 lb. plate. Check your ID tag, on the trailer for gross weight, that will tell you what plate to buy in Indiana, don't fudge much, on your gross, as in buy a 7K plate and have a 14K gross, and haul 14K gross, they can, and possibly will, fine you, be safe.

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Van in AR

05-15-2005 18:25:37

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Re: what size plates to get for trailer in reply to earlschieb, 05-15-2005 07:40:33

I have a 30' felling gooseneck with three 7K axles and my trailer is placarded for 24K. You need to remember that the combined axle weight is not the trailers gross, my combined weight is only 21K, the truck gets to carry part of the weight.
Van

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old

05-15-2005 07:30:26

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Re: what size plates to get for trailer in reply to home in Indiana, 05-15-2005 05:31:17

In my state you plate the trailor with a trailor plate. The truck you use to pull it is the one with the rateing on it. Yes the weight is the truck, trailor, and what ever you are hualing.

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john in la

05-15-2005 07:19:28

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Re: what size plates to get for trailer in reply to home in Indiana, 05-15-2005 05:31:17

As you can see this is really not the type of question you can ask on a national discussion board because every state has different rules and what may be the correct way in my state will not work in your state.
Call your local DMV and they will tell you all you need to know.

Now with that said let me add my 2¢ and guess at how your state does it.

If you look at the plates available from your state (Here) you will see they offer tags for different weights up to and above 22,000 lbs. I would doubt there are very few or any trailers on the road including semi trailers that weigh over 22,000 lbs empty so this would leave me to believe..... ..... ..... ...

That you need a plate for your truck with a weight rating to cover the weight of the truck; the weight of the trailer; and the weight of any and all cargo. (Total Combined Gross Weight)

You would also need a trailer plate to cover the weight of the trailer and the weight of any and all cargo on the trailer. (Total Gross Weight of Trailer)

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Leroy

05-15-2005 06:15:48

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Re: what size plates to get for trailer in reply to home in Indiana, 05-15-2005 05:31:17

In Ohio you get the trailer weight on a special form from the DMV, go to your local comercial scale (Grain elevator) have weighed and them fill out form, take form back to DMV and they will sell you the plate at price based on empty weight of trailer, No questions on load capacity of trailer, Just if a factory made trailer have title, if home made type and year you made it

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RustyFarmall

05-15-2005 05:50:46

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Re: what size plates to get for trailer in reply to home in Indiana, 05-15-2005 05:31:17

I don't know about Indiana, in Iowa you license the truck for the total GVW including the trailer and the cargo. Mine is licensed for 10 ton.

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Doug in IL

05-15-2005 05:42:54

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Re: what size plates to get for trailer in reply to home in Indiana, 05-15-2005 05:31:17

In Illinois, that is the case. Plate weight rating would need to be the the cargo weight plus the weight of the trailer.

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kjm

05-15-2005 07:00:14

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Re: what size plates to get for trailer in reply to Doug in IL, 05-15-2005 05:42:54

In MO you buy tags buy the number of axles, the weight is covered buy the truck. I have 12,000 plates on my Toyota and 2 axle plates on the trailer.( If I rember right mine cost 18.00 for 3 years.)

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Jimmy King

05-15-2005 07:53:22

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Re: what size plates to get for trailer in reply to kjm, 05-15-2005 07:00:14

Unless they have changed in the last couple of years in Mo. trailer tags are just that no matter of size one year $7, 3 years $21, or $70 for life time of trailer. Weight is on the puller I had #18000 on my truck for a 18 Ft. flatbed, and 16 Ft. Stock. The $7, $21, and $7o are before venders fees.

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