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john in la

05-07-2005 04:48:04

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Other than being a dead on shot with a 22 for a head shot does anyone know of a way to remove/trap/kill turtles in a farm pond.

Maybe I should also ask do I really want to remove them. Some people say they eat your fish but others say the loss fish are worth it because the turtles keep snakes out of the pond. I have not really made up my mind who to believe yet.

Thanks for the help.

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vinnie

05-07-2005 16:21:49

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Re: O/T Turtles in pond in reply to john in la, 05-07-2005 04:48:04

After you cut the head off it will keeping moveing for hours how chop some of the tail off and take a wire or coat hanger wire and stick it up the littel hole in the middle of the bone and as you go up it will freeze the hind legs then the front legs then the neck so you can skin it out

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Brian in Ohio

05-07-2005 14:24:42

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Re: O/T Turtles in pond in reply to john in la, 05-07-2005 04:48:04

My grandpa used to catch and clean turtles all the time. He'd go around to nieghboring ponds and set stakes around the pond with high gauge fishing line and a big hook. His favorite bait was ham or pigs feet. He'd go back after a couple of days, and reel them in, put them in a burlap sack, and carry them home. He let them out of the bag into an empty watering trough, and let them "clean themselves out". He had a big sycamore stump in the backyard, and he used that as his "turtle table" Couple of days later, he'd clamp onto one of them by the jaw with a pair of channel lock, and carry them to the table. Chop of the head, cut off the belly plate, and start cutting the meaty parts out. (Legs and backbone mostly) Anything else was pitched, and the shells were saved. (made bowls out of them)

The meat had to be frozen for at least a week to take the "pond taste" out of it, bread it and fry like chicken. We always had one good turtle fry a summer.

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HarryG

05-07-2005 08:55:29

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Re: O/T Turtles in pond in reply to john in la, 05-07-2005 04:48:04

Check out these traps.

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HarryG

05-07-2005 08:57:39

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Re: O/T Turtles in pond in reply to HarryG, 05-07-2005 08:55:29

Link didn't take. Lets try this again.

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HarryG

05-07-2005 09:29:01

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Re: O/T Turtles in pond in reply to HarryG, 05-07-2005 08:57:39

Here is a site much more detailed plans and info.

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john in la

05-08-2005 04:39:58

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Re: O/T Turtles in pond in reply to HarryG, 05-07-2005 09:29:01

Thanks Harry;
This is just what I was looking for.

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old

05-07-2005 07:20:59

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Re: O/T Turtles in pond in reply to john in la, 05-07-2005 04:48:04

A shot gun with # 4 shot works better.

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Richard H.

05-07-2005 05:02:01

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Re: O/T Turtles in pond in reply to john in la, 05-07-2005 04:48:04

I know turtles are hard on frogs and water fowl that nest near the water. One method to trap them is to sink a barrel in the water with the lip up about 3" with a board on top acting as a teeter totter. They sure make for good eating! Richard

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txgrn

05-07-2005 05:01:30

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Re: O/T Turtles in pond in reply to john in la, 05-07-2005 04:48:04

Watch them now being it's the end of bass spawning season here. On snakes, keeping the grass cut around the pond is the best deterrent.

Now how's a turtle supposed to chase a snake off John?

I just cleaned mine out. Must have been 30 or so turtles; turtles everywhere.

Remember on a rifle, shooting at low grazing angles on a pond, the rickochet. Besides, with a shotgun you don't have to be a marksman. Grin

I was in my pasture one day which is at a higher elevation than the neighbor's pond. He had some city slickers over. One of the things they were doing was shooting turtles with a rifle. The guy saw me coming after him and ran and put his gun up. Heck, for a minute there I thought I was a clay pigeon. (Don't answer that....Grin)

Mark

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john in la

05-07-2005 05:27:28

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Re: O/T Turtles in pond in reply to txgrn, 05-07-2005 05:01:30

Mark;
I really do not have a problem with snakes because I keep the grass short but extra insurance is always welcome when it come to cotton mouths. I was thinking the same thing as How is a turtle going to chase off a snake but that is what someone told me so I figured I would run it by the experts on this site.

Now I did go out there with a 12ga and #6 shot yesterday. Either I got more turtles than I thought or I am a real bad shot. Can not believe I said that.
I was figuring the small shot in a spread pattern may still miss the head and since the shell is under the water and hard the small shot may not be doing the job. Guess I will go to Wally World today and get some 00 buckshot.

This thing keeps pissing me off I am going to take that 30/30 after his a$$. Crack the shell in two but I was also worried about the ricochet problem also.

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txgrn

05-09-2005 06:08:11

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Re: O/T Turtles in pond in reply to john in la, 05-07-2005 05:27:28

12ga and #8 is what I have been using. I like a lot of individual shot, especially when a head is all I see above the water.
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Had a 6" and 10" (one above the other) on a piece of wire cage that I had had around a tree but now was lying half way out of the water on it's side.

The 6" was sleeping and the 10" had his head reared up and was the lookout. I attempted to sneak up on them (about 75' distant) when the 10" slipped into the water. The 6" didn't wake up and I popped him. He never moved and to this day he is still where I shot him. One of those teeny weeny BB's must have hit him in the brain.

Mark

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buickanddeere

05-07-2005 12:05:49

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Re: O/T Turtles in pond in reply to john in la, 05-07-2005 05:27:28

The turtle being a cold blooded reptile will keep on moving for days after being mortally wounded. And even severe injuries are rarely fatal. The Human Society in Toronto got uptight about the sale of live turtles in the markets. It seems the imigrants do the same here as they did at home. They will take the turtle home and keep slicing the meet of it for a few days. It dosen't spoil in warm weather without refrigeration when still alive. The other bad habit is purchasing two fish and tossing one into the lake live and eating the other fish. It's something to do with thier culture and/or religion. Problem some of these non native fish are taking over the lakes.

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txgrn

05-09-2005 06:11:32

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Re: O/T Turtles in pond in reply to buickanddeere, 05-07-2005 12:05:49

I agree on the movement. After I had a shooting spree on the 30, I found only 2 out in the field dead, and only 4 in the pond; but they were all essentially gone. So If I didn't wound them and they crawled off farther than I could see, I scared them off. Ok by me as I got rid of them.

Mark

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Leland

05-07-2005 04:57:18

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Re: O/T Turtles in pond in reply to john in la, 05-07-2005 04:48:04

Used gallon jugs with treble hooks baited this will make the easy to find , and you always get rid of them find a local bar and see if they would like to have a turtle fry around where I live you have no problem getting rid of them us midwestern hill billys seem to enjoy them.

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john in la

05-07-2005 05:32:03

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Re: O/T Turtles in pond in reply to Leland, 05-07-2005 04:57:18

These coon a$$es around here eat any thing that does not eat them first.

Never really thought about a hook and line. May try that. What should I use for bait????? ?

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Sloroll

05-07-2005 14:23:43

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Re: O/T Turtles in pond in reply to john in la, 05-07-2005 05:32:03

We use the milk jug and trebble hooks with chicken gizzards, beef liver, heart what ever is bloody and cheap for bate. Use a strong cable leader. Just row out and pull up the jugs.

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tanklord

05-07-2005 05:56:02

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Re: O/T Turtles in pond in reply to john in la, 05-07-2005 05:32:03

You mean you live in Louisiana and you never once thought about eating them? Okay, pack your bags and off to the great white north for you!. LOL Really, the post about the barrel and board is a good trap- google turtle traps and they should show you a number of different traps based on the same idea. If these are red-eared turtles, they ain"t very good eating in my book- prefer snapping turtle.

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Pajamfied John

05-07-2005 07:02:18

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Re: O/T Turtles in pond in reply to tanklord, 05-07-2005 05:56:02

O.K., I've heard a lot about how good turtles are to eat in soup etc. How do you prepare the turtle carcass and how do you fix them. Ever so often I do come across a snapper. Might take him home for dinner next time.

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tanklord

05-07-2005 07:12:02

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Re: O/T Turtles in pond in reply to Pajamfied John, 05-07-2005 07:02:18

John, we are even now, because I do not know how to field dress a turtle. That's my BIL's job!. I cook mine in a sauce piquant- brown gravy for you Non-Cajuns. I also fry it up like chicken.

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