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OT- 2nd year alfalfa

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Brian S, NE

05-05-2005 11:58:00




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All you experienced guys should be able to help out an inexperienced land owner.

I have 11 acres in eastern NE. 8~9 in alfalfa (ranger?) and timothy that the previous owners' renter put in last year. He took one cutting off off it last year. Coming up real nice this year.

Making money off it is not first priority, but it wouldn't hurt.

The main reason for planting anything is an erosion problem on one side of the property. The second is just for the wildlife, pheasants.

So the questions; what is the impact of not cutting it? Is it better to go ahead and cut it and leave it lay (8N with 5ft KK) or is it OK to just leave it stand? If the renter would want the alfalfa, what's it worth? I know it's a hard question to answer. Just looking for some kind of starting point so as to not sound too stupid. Last year he baled it into the large round bales.

Some other time I'll post about getting rid of the d*&n siberian elm trees growing in part of the alfalfa, must be 1000 of them starting to come up.

Thanks guys.

Brian S, NE

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paul

05-06-2005 06:59:33




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 Re: OT- 2nd year alfalfa in reply to Brian S, NE, 05-05-2005 11:58:00  
Well, you will get more tree problem if you don't cut it. As well as other weeds.

If you cut it & don't bale it off, it kinda builds up, chokes off alfalfa, hard to cut the second time....

So, best option by far with alfalfa is to cut & harvest it.

In my part of the country it is common for someone to come cut, rake, bale the hay and leave 1/2 in the field for the land owner, take 1/2 home.

Adjustments can be made for too small fields (he gets more for the travel time vs worth of crop...), who does the fertilizing, etc. What about spraying for aphids, or when the alfalfa thins out, who works & reseeds the field, etc.?

The first year 1 - 2 cuttings is normal around 'here', for the next 3-7 years you would get 3-4 cuttings every year 'here'. Different parts of the country average 2-7 cutting per year, I'd expect you to get 3-5 depending on rainfall where you are?

If you don't want the hay, you can sell it, or you can 'sell' it to your haymaker for the going rate of hay. But this establishes a price by splitting the crop. As well, you both share the risk of a good vs bad crop, if you get aphids or drought you get less bales, in a good year you get many bales....

What is the size of the trees in your other field, a good brush hog will take down a lot, BUT then I would never run a sickle bar or good tires through that field until it was worked over & started over.... If real small, deal with it NOW while you can, will be a lost cause in 2 years.....

--->Paul

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rambone

05-05-2005 19:03:31




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 Re: OT- 2nd year alfalfa in reply to Brian S, NE, 05-05-2005 11:58:00  
Just one cutting? We normally get four to five cuttings on alfalfa in MO. Half is fair. Just be careful on who pays for what. We do a one third two thirds deal where I pay a third of whatever is bought for the crop and receive a third of the outcome. ASk if the renter will fertilize after the first cutting is off. As for as the tree problem, good luck!!!



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Nebraska Cowman

05-05-2005 17:28:56




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 Re: OT- 2nd year alfalfa in reply to Brian S, NE, 05-05-2005 11:58:00  
I think you are better off to keep it cut. Kinda hard on the turkey nests but they should have known better. I don't grow crops for the wildlife, they get plenty to eat without my say-so. And you will solve your tree problem too. Give the landowner half.



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