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old fashioned f

04-28-2005 19:27:42




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Howdy folks,

Well I've run into a hard question regarding the 200 or so square bales of straw still in my barn that haven't sold yet. See, recently a real nice fella moved into the county from down Cincinnati way and started his own little construction outfit with a bobcat. He only needed a few bales since he's a small outfit. The thing is, this guy didn't stop there. He said he'd get my straw sold. I was surprised. How could anyone be that nice these days?? Well, it wasn't a hoax. Yesterday he came out and told me he was gonna bring a fella out who would probably buy all I had. I couldn't have been happier. You knew this was coming though...there had to be a catch. The problem was the guy who was wanting to buy the straw. The fella owns a gas station close by and sells the hay and straw he buys for a dollar or so more than what I get for it. But this fella and our farm have a little history. See, back in the winter he talked to the farmer who leases out part of the crops and that farmer sent him our way for straw. The thing is, this guy didn't bother to stop at the house or contact us (the barn is down the road from our house). He just went down and got his straw, left, and sent the check to the other farmer (it was his wheat so half the money was his). I told the other farmer just how upset I was over this guy's actions and when the construction guy came I told him that I wasn't going to sell this guy any straw on account of what had taken place. Well, today that guy called the house and asked about buying straw. So now I'm in a little rut. I feel bad about not selling it because I feel like I'm holding a grudge against this guy. I need to sell the straw but just don't know if I should go ahead and sell it to that guy. What do you all think? God bless.

--old fashioned farmer

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old fashioned farmer

04-29-2005 07:43:18




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 Thanks for your help in reply to old fashioned farmer, 04-28-2005 19:27:42  
Howdy folks,

Ya ever have one of those times where you know deep down inside what ya have to do but need a little reassurance from another source? Yeah, this was one of those times. I have to agree with most of you on this and will get hold of him and let him know that I've changed my mind and also clear up the whole issue of the time before. I really can't say if that instance was a misunderstanding or not. Since he contacted my neighbor and not me, I have no idea if the neighbor really did tell him or not. See, that neighbor farms a lot of other farms and stores round bales and such on those farms and since he can't be everywhere at once, he often just takes payment and leaves it to the buyer to go to that farm and get his product. I don't like that way of doing business but it's him and not me so I don't say anything. Of course, I really didn't appreciate it last winter when his buyer came with two gooseneck trailers and a little loader tractor to pickup the round bales he had baled on us. They came on a really muddy day and proceeded to tear apart one hay field and the yard down on the farm. But I've let that go. The damage is healing itself. I'll be honest with you, I'm not one to hold grudges. Just ain't in this old christian's blood. The main reason I was not selling him the straw was because I thought his actions were really wrong. See, I disagree with the notion that the money is most important. Heck, I sell some hay so cheap that money couldn't be important. I live in an area that is pretty poor and I like to be able to help out some folks who may need that hay more than I need the money. But I also like to do clean business and don't want to reward someone who is out to make a buck and that's their life's goal and they don't really care what they have to do to achieve it. Just don't work with an old fashioned guy like me. Can't help it. I'm as stubborn as my grandad was and that isn't changing anytime soon. So, to sum things up. I do plan on selling him that straw. It probably was a miscommunication with the renter. And yes, I should have went to the buyer first when I found out it was him as opposed to speakin to others. I agree that this was a big boo boo on my part and I look to clear that up. Thanks a bunch for settin me straight again. I hope that this does turn out well. God bless.

--old fashioned farmer

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thurlow

04-29-2005 07:22:46




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 Re: What would you do? in reply to old fashioned farmer, 04-28-2005 19:27:42  
Almost assuredly it's a problem of mis-communication..... ..... .between you and the partner/farmer. If he is a FARMER, he's used to being in charge/doing what he thinks best/not asking anyone else. He thought the hay was his to sell and that's what he did. Unless there was some agreement that we (the brethern on here) are not aware of, that's my take on it. I bet he told the buyer, "The hay's over here in this barn, go get it and send me a check".

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blue

04-30-2005 07:02:00




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 Re: What would you do? in reply to thurlow, 04-29-2005 07:22:46  
what would you do-don"t cry about-you solved it yourself. get on with life.



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dhermesc

04-29-2005 12:57:18




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 Re: What would you do? in reply to thurlow, 04-29-2005 07:22:46  
I agree with Thurlow, your renter is the one who sold the straw, if there is an issue to be made, it's with him. The buyer is getting bad press for striking a deal, and sticking to it.



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dave blakeman

04-29-2005 07:12:24




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 Re: What would you do? in reply to old fashioned farmer, 04-28-2005 19:27:42  
I try to break things down sometimes the way I was taught in the Marine Corps.What is the mission?And the mission comes first all else is secondary.The mission here seems to be to sell the straw;therefore all esle is secondary.I would sell the straw and complete my mission.



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Pajamafied John

04-29-2005 07:00:09




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 Re: What would you do? in reply to old fashioned farmer, 04-28-2005 19:27:42  
Go ahead and sell your straw. Let the guy know he overstepped his bounds (not with gun in hand). I have met a lot of people that have overstepped themselves and after bringing them up short on it turned out to be pretty good people in general. Don't hold a grudge. Life is too short.



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JK-NY

04-29-2005 05:23:24




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 Re: What would you do? in reply to old fashioned farmer, 04-28-2005 19:27:42  
I agree with most everyone else, from what you say this buyer has held up his end so far and the first deal sounds like a misunderstanding , probably more your renters fault . From all you have told us it sounds like the buyer did what was asked of him the first time. I would go ahead and sell him the straw and explain your side a little, keeping in mind that may be the first time he hears it. He could turn into a good customer for you.I agree with Indydirt farmer, from my experience selling hay and a little straw for the last 20+ years you can get in some odd deals in this business more than usual.

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Indydirtfarmer

04-29-2005 03:17:36




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 Re: What would you do? in reply to old fashioned farmer, 04-28-2005 19:27:42  
The way I look at it... EVEN IF the first time he got straw, there was something afoul with the deal, his money is as good as anyones... As long as you're getting paid, who cares. I never let personal feelings get in the way of business.

And it does sound like a simple misunderstanding to me too. A total stranger couldn't be expected to know all the details about your arraingement with your "partner". (unless the partner told him)

I sell all of my hay and all of my straw too. This business seems to draw odd business arraingements. Lots of unusual deals. Just get "your price" and let him have the straw.

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Robert in TN

04-28-2005 23:49:11




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 Re: What would you do? in reply to old fashioned farmer, 04-28-2005 19:27:42  
I have to agree with Dug, sounds like a misunderstanding to me. I would let him know that you are the one he has to see to buy the straw. He apparently knows this now since he did call you. Sell and be done with it...



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Coldiron

04-28-2005 23:32:13




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 Re: What would you do? in reply to old fashioned farmer, 04-28-2005 19:27:42  
Old Fashioned, Having dealings with the public I would imagine it was a misunderstanding as to who was to receive the payment. If your barn is open and subject to people coming and going I would put a no trespass sign with a phone no. to notify you on the purchase of straw etc. No honest person will ever cross the no trespass sign. A lot of stupid ones may though. Call the man up and tell him you have cooled down and get your straw moved.

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Dug

04-28-2005 20:49:21




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 Re: What would you do? in reply to old fashioned farmer, 04-28-2005 19:27:42  
Doesn't sound like a case of attempted theft, but rather a simple misunderstanding. Sell the straw and be done with it.

Dug



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Sid

04-28-2005 20:31:45




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 Re: What would you do? in reply to old fashioned farmer, 04-28-2005 19:27:42  
I think I woulda went to the straw buyer right off the bat. You have talked about him to two other guys when your problem was (is) with him. You told the construction guy you would not sell the straw buyer any straw. Will he want to keep doing business with someone who says one thing then does another?



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bob23

04-28-2005 20:04:10




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 Re: What would you do? in reply to old fashioned farmer, 04-28-2005 19:27:42  
There may have been some miscommunication before but I'd probably have a problem with someone who helped themself to my barn too. Its hard to trust people these days. Personally I probably wouldn't sell it to him. Like the other fellow said there are other companies out there looking for straw this time of year.



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Davis In SC

04-28-2005 20:04:05




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 Re: What would you do? in reply to old fashioned farmer, 04-28-2005 19:27:42  
Sounds like it could have been a mis-understanding about who owned the straw.. The man did pay, it shows he is honest... I think I would talk to him , & explain things, & give him another chance....



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Paul in Mich

04-28-2005 19:39:09




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 Re: What would you do? in reply to old fashioned farmer, 04-28-2005 19:27:42  
I guess the question is: What is best, having some money from someone you don"t particularly like in your back pocket, or have a barn full of unsold straw? From what I"ve heard, unless your straw has pictures of George Washington printed on it, the money will be easier for you to spend. It sure makes "bye gones" easier to become "Bye gones".



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Dug G.

04-28-2005 19:35:23




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 Re: What would you do? in reply to old fashioned farmer, 04-28-2005 19:27:42  
If I were in your shoes, I'd talk to the guy and let him know about your complaint/situation. Chances are, the wheat guy? may have not let him know what the situation was, or that he should have contacted you first. If he did know better, then I would definetely ask for him to contact me before picking up a load, and for payment up front to you or the other guy. On the other hand, there are a lot of other construction companies that could use straw this time of year.

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Harley

04-29-2005 06:11:06




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 Re: What would you do? in reply to Dug G., 04-28-2005 19:35:23  
Yep Old, in this day and age, we have to have a little trust in our fellow humans. I know that's hard given the fact that we have all been burned from time to time, but think how much better you'll feel having completed this deal and done away with the old hard feelings. Had a deal similar to this happen this winter. We had some of our woods and canyons for sale, and one day the wife and i were out in the barnlot and we heard a four wheeler back of the buildings roaming around. Well this old boy don't fool around, so I went to the house, got the gun, and stood by the gate I knew he'd have to come out of and waited. Sure enough pretty soon here he came. I asked if I could help him and he said he was showing the property and had got on by the back side. I uncerimoniously stood the gun by the corner post and undid the gate for him and told him next time come by the house and let us know he was going down back, that I was a lot more forgiving than some of the neighbors. His eyes got a little bigger and hs said he sure would. About two months ago he sold this property for us. Moral of the story, sometimes city folks don't have the same good sense and manners about coming to the house first, they just don't know what is proper. Good luck to you, Harley

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