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Garret Turbo

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Hurst

04-28-2005 13:20:22




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I have done some research and found that the diesel perkins 4.236 had a garret TA31. I see that the prices of these turbos are pretty high, and I was wondering is there another turbo that would bolt on instead of this one that is either a less expensive/more common garret model or one of another good brand? I am not sure how much pressure this turbo puts out, but I am not looking at adding more than about 20 - 30 hp at the most, probably will be more like 15 to be safe. Is there a smaller turbo that would be better suited for my needs and still bolt onto the manifold and hook up ok (and less expensive)? Thanks for your help. Also, are garrets good turbos? Anything else I need to know about them?

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Rod F.

04-28-2005 19:31:28




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 Re: Garret Turbo in reply to Hurst, 04-28-2005 13:20:22  
I doubt that you will find a lot of difference in the prices of turbo's. They're all expensive. Garrett/AiResearch is as good as any turbo. They are now a division of Honeywell, so you might want to check out their website for some model information and distributers, etc. For some reason, that model # (TA31) strikes a chord with me. It seems that it might be a twin inlet turbo. Twin inlet turbo's are know as pulse turbo's, as they tend to provide slight pressure surges, and cam profiles generally allow for a certain amount of scavenging. The exhaust manifold flows are divided in two, and half is fed to each side of the turbo. This was the predominant system on Ford BSD engines. Where you are simply boosting up the engine you have, and not changing the cam profile, you would want to go with a single inlet turbo. Again, I'm not sure on that model #, but check it out to be sure. As stated in the other post, it would be a good idea to speak with an injection and turbo shop. They could also be invaluable in providing advice on turbo sizing, injector nozzel sizing, and pump settings so that you make the power you want without going too far or wasting fuel. You want to make sure that the air/fuel ratios don't get out of whack. A good shop will tell you which nozzels will go with what turbo and the power that can be expected. Good luck.

Rod

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Mark - IN.

04-28-2005 15:44:07




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 Re: Garret Turbo in reply to Hurst, 04-28-2005 13:20:22  
Did a repair in a place called R&S Distributing in Minooka, IL. 800/292-0414. Never seen so many turbos in my life, size of baseballs to car tires. Talked to the owner, nice guy, says they rebuild turbos for a great deal of suppliers, whom then sell them over the counter (auto and truck part stores, probably tractor too). Said they will sell to the public too. I'd bet can match you up on a known application, maybe make recommendations, maybe send you literature. Try them out.

Can find them as well as a list of suppliers in every state at ihi-turbo.com, maybe your state too. Take a look.

Lot of things to consider when adding a turbo to a "as is" normally aspirated engine. Pressures go up in the manifold and cylinders. Some stock gaskets, o-rings, rings etc. don't care for that. But if go mild on boost, probably ok.

Mark

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