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what's a good tractor?

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keithp

04-09-2005 06:52:36




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what would be a good tractor for us..was looking at a mf65..what we are looking to do with it is..brush hog ,little garden plowing, small manure spreader and moving round bails out to a few beefers, we have $2500-3000 but prefer 2500 so we have 500 if it needs anything minor done to it..but really want something that can go right to work..we are located in new york and it seems tractors are high in this area..thanks for any help...Keith

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Bob N.Y.

04-09-2005 16:32:11




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 Re: what's a good tractor? in reply to keithp, 04-09-2005 06:52:36  
The Massey 65 is a very versatile tractor. I have a 65 and a 165. Does the tractor have "Multi-Power"? IF it does not, the transmission oil leak may not be serious.



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j cook (iowa)

04-09-2005 07:01:30




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 Re: what's a good tractor? in reply to keithp, 04-09-2005 06:52:36  
Well, An MF65 is a good tractor, perhaps more power than you might need, but a pretty good choice. Another choice or two: MF50, AC D14 or D15, Oliver 550 or s55, MM 335 or 445, IHC 300, 340 or 350, Ford 641 thru 861 and 3000, Case 530 or similar tractors. I really like John Deere tractors, BUT, all of the small tractors, made by John Deere will be too expensive, due to the "collector" demand for them, or, they will be like the 1010 and 2010 which are not well thought of and are best left TO the collectors!. The mostg suitable John Deeres would be tractors like the 1020, 1520, and 2020 (all excellent and all likely to be pricey for you). Good luck.

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keithp

04-09-2005 07:15:10




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 Re: what's a good tractor? in reply to j cook (iowa), 04-09-2005 07:01:30  
thanks so much J,those are alot of options..we looking for something that will not kill us financially..but i did find a mf65 gas powered up thr road from us and the info i'm posting now is from another post i did yesterday so any info on this one will be greatly appreciated... . the tractor has excellent tread all the way around, lights , 3pt ,pto all work good..but the right front wheel bearing is bad and i notice a little oil leaking from a coupl of places..my question is.. if we have someone who is great at fixing cars will they be able with a manual work on this tractor ...seems to be not much to the motors.Are parts easy to get and are they expensive? the tractor looks good and they want $2500 for it...should i stay away from it? thanks for any help....Keith

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Hurst

04-09-2005 07:56:29




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 Re: what's a good tractor? in reply to keithp, 04-09-2005 07:15:10  
The wheel bearing shouldn't cost too much to fix, the parts will be the most expensive thing, not the labour. On the engine, where exactly are the oil leaks? Has the tractor run in a while and have you heard it run? Ask them to put an oil pressure guage on it to make sure it has good pressure, for low pressure is a sign of a bad bearing in the engine. When you said the 3pt worked, did it lift a load or just lift its self? I would put a bushhog or something else heavy on the back and make sure it lifts it without much noise. Then turn the tractor off and make sure it doesn't fall too quickly, it shouldn't touch for atleast 10 mins in my opinion at the soonest. If your friend who works on cars knows anything about engines he shouldn't have a problem. I would also hook up a compression guage to the engine to make sure the rings are all good. Any of these problems can cost anywhere from hundreds to thousands to fix (worst would be rebuilding the engine). Your friend should be able to work on this thing with just the torque specs, tractor engines are simple.

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keithp

04-09-2005 08:11:51




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 Re: what's a good tractor? in reply to Hurst, 04-09-2005 07:56:29  
thanks hurst..the tractor started right up but we didn't drive it because the lady wasn't home but she did leave the key in it for us...the 3pt had a bush hog on it when we got there and the hog was still in the air, after we started it we levered it right down and up again..there was oil near the front of the motor when i ran my hand under it (not alot) and kind of like a plug hole with a cotter pin in it near or on the bell housing, stuck my finger in it and came out with oil on it..i just don't know much about these thing but i will ask my friend about a pressure gauge...looks like they kept the tractor inside and it is a horse stable with other larger tractors mostly for haying she said...thanks so much for the replies and help...Keith

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Hurst

04-09-2005 11:50:00




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 Re: what's a good tractor? in reply to keithp, 04-09-2005 08:11:51  
If the oil is at the very front of the engine and coming out of a hole in the bell housing, it sounds like the seals on the crank may be dry. This could either be the result of the tractor not being used very often and the seals are dry rotted, or that the tractor hasn't been run in a while and the seals are just a little dry and haven't expanded to fill up the space. IF the oil pressure is good, then you know that the bearings are ok, so the seals are probably what are leaking. If the leak isn't too bad, it should be able to go a while without any major repare. Is hte oil in the bell housing engine or tranny? If its tranny, I would be a little cautious unless they just did tranny work and its in there from where they worked on it. Normally, this is a sign of a bad seal in the tranny. I would ask the lady if you could run it for a while and then, clean off all the oil, and allow it to run for a little longer and see if it still leaks a lot. If its not leaking any/much then, the seals were probably just a little dry. The main thing to this is to make sure you have good oil pressure. Its not unusual fot an older tractor to drip a little oil in some places, but it should be a VERY slow drip at the most, preferrably just a moist spot on the engine. If the oil pressure and compression are goood, then I would say, go ahead, sounds like the hydraulics are good, and I am assuming no tranny trouble, but I would give it a good drive and go down a coulple of hills in the higher gears and make sure they don't pop out, gears are expensive. There are a lot of good articles on the web on what to look for when buying a used tractor, I would check one of those out. Also, ask if she has done any major work, if so, get either the reciept or the name and phone of the person who did it to ask the person who did it if they saw anything else when they worked on it. Goodluck, let me know if you need anything else, feel free to e-mail.

Hurst

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keithp

04-09-2005 12:09:12




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 Re: what's a good tractor? in reply to Hurst, 04-09-2005 11:50:00  
thanks so much hurst..the woman said the tractor had been rebuilt but none of the gaskets looked new but it could have been rebuilt in her mind last year..but we will go back and do and check what you said..she had this tractor listed on e-bay a little over a month ago...thanks again...Keith



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Hurst

04-09-2005 12:26:07




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 Re: what's a good tractor? in reply to keithp, 04-09-2005 12:09:12  
Ask for a reciept or the name of the guy who did this, and if they refuse of don't want to give it to you, then I would really doubt that the engine was overhauled. Goodluck

Hurst



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Lou

04-09-2005 09:07:21




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 Re: what's a good tractor? in reply to keithp, 04-09-2005 08:11:51  
Where you at in NY Im on my way to an auction out by Vernon downs, they say there are a lot of tractors. good luck



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keithp

04-09-2005 11:30:51




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 Re: what's a good tractor? in reply to Lou, 04-09-2005 09:07:21  
yeah thats at burton's livestock...was going to go to that and forgot..i'm down by binghamton....Keith



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Lou

04-09-2005 13:36:20




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 Re: what's a good tractor? in reply to keithp, 04-09-2005 11:30:51  
Just returned from the auction in vernon, that 165 sounds good to me, but I like MF tractors. Lou



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keithp

04-09-2005 17:05:17




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 Re: what's a good tractor? in reply to Lou, 04-09-2005 13:36:20  
was that at burtons lou? anything good there?...Keith



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keithp

04-09-2005 18:21:02




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 Re: what's a good tractor? in reply to keithp, 04-09-2005 17:05:17  
Hey Bob, what do you mean by multi power?....Keith



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Bob N.Y.

04-10-2005 15:39:57




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 Re: what's a good tractor? in reply to keithp, 04-09-2005 18:21:02  
Multi-Power is a 2 speed shift on the go. It was offered as an option starting in 1962 or 63. A 65 so equipped would have a small lever on the right side of the dash near your knee as you sit on the seat.



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keithp

04-10-2005 17:15:02




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 Re: what's a good tractor? in reply to Bob N.Y., 04-10-2005 15:39:57  
thanks Bob, i'll look, we're going tomorrow evening to check it better and do the oil pressure and compression test...thanks a bunch all



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