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Smaller than a commercial...bigger than a hobby...

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Matt from CT

04-05-2005 10:12:08




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Curious if others are seeing a trend...

I only play around on my 12 mostly wooded acres (with a '55 TO-35 :) )...but I've always followed farms around here with interest.

More and more in Southern New England I'm seeing decent size tractors at the few dealers around again -- I'm talking in the 100hp range. These ain't the compacts for the gentlemen farmers (like me) with money (unlike me :D)...these aren't the utility tractors for the horse people.

Then again, they're smaller than what the remaining "get big or get out" dairy farmers would usually use...

And there way more than the "small & efficient" dairy farmer would spend on a tractor...they might use the same power, but they'd buy it used. (My neighboring dairy uses a beautiful Allis D-19 as their daily utility!)

My only guess is these are being bought, or at least stocked on the hope to be sold, by larger Hobby farmers who want the "full size" tractor 'cause they look nice...

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Easy

04-06-2005 01:49:23




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 Re: Smaller than a commercial...bigger than a hobb in reply to Matt from CT, 04-05-2005 10:12:08  
In Michigan, I have seen several people go into farming, in a way I guess. All of them are in the construction or developement business. The farming is a tax writeoff. They have nice equipment, are incorporated, and have considerable money invested. It might be a way to get better tax treatment for property they are going to develop in the future. Even some really big farmers have sucessful outside business that is much more profitable than growing corn & beans. One gut I buy hay from runs a sucessful landscaping business. He told me that he makes money 1 out of 6 years. ( Farming) I don't know how that works! Easy.

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kyhayman

04-05-2005 17:53:01




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 Re: Smaller than a commercial...bigger than a hobb in reply to Matt from CT, 04-05-2005 10:12:08  
Here, the 60-110 hp tractor is the backbone of farming. Very few people running bigger hp (top out in the 170's 180's). Only thing the really big ones are used for are those few big farms with really swampy soils who need to plow and disc. Otherwise the 80-110 size especially is perfect. One of the better dairy farms here joins me, he just two years ago got a 110 hp JD. Before a 7700 Ford was his biggest tractor.

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Gerald J.

04-05-2005 12:09:01




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 Re: Smaller than a commercial...bigger than a hobb in reply to Matt from CT, 04-05-2005 10:12:08  
Out west in Iowa, its been true for some time that the 60 to 100 hp farm tractors sell for no more than the 20 to 35 hp utility tractors and do so much work the only reason for not using them is they won't go in a 7' high garage door.

I have a MF-135 and it struggles in snow. I have a JD 4020 and it walks through snow drifts the 135 take a day to dig through.

Gerald



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knauffj

04-05-2005 11:39:31




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 Re: Smaller than a commercial...bigger than a hobb in reply to Matt from CT, 04-05-2005 10:12:08  
I've noticed the same here in western PA. The majority of the tractors aren't sold though. They show them in their lots and at the fairs, then get moved to other dealers. Eye candy I guess?? Nice to look at, but not enough money or farmers.



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PhilCaseinWPA

04-06-2005 06:52:35




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 Re: Smaller than a commercial...bigger than a hobb in reply to knauffj, 04-05-2005 11:39:31  
Hey Knauffi, Where are you in W. PA? I'm in Beaver CO. We don't have a full line equipment dealer in the county. Some used lots, some very used.

Phil



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knauffj

04-06-2005 10:05:01




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 Re: Smaller than a commercial...bigger than a hobb in reply to PhilCaseinWPA, 04-06-2005 06:52:35  
I'm up in Mercer. We have a Massey, Case IH, John Deere/AGCO, Ford New Holland, and another AGCO dealer within a 30-40 minute drive, and another JD and Ford dealer within an hour drive in Ohio. They all sell over priced used or over priced new equipment and tractors. Parts are reasonable though. I live and work on a dairy farm with 900+ acres for feed for cows and sunflowers, pumpkins, sweet corn, and squash. I also keep a few of my beef cows here. Most farms around here are small beef and dairy farms. What about down there?

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PhilCaseinWPA

04-07-2005 06:00:44




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 Re: Smaller than a commercial...bigger than a hobb in reply to knauffj, 04-06-2005 10:05:01  
Not many farms left down here. Even fewer that are the only job the farmer has. I work off the farm nine months and have the summers off. Some dairy left, some beef herds. Horses are probably the most common livestock. Selling horse hay keeps a lot of other farmers going. I own 190 acres but over half is woods. I raise vegetables and sell at our farm market and also go to farmers' markets. I make hay and keep my sister's horses at the farm. She works for me for free then.

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