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Tim Shultz

03-27-2005 07:36:54




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I heard from a freind that there is a good time to cut hay, was in the morning or night, can't remember wich. he had said that if you bale it at the wrong time it will make it bitter.
was he right? if so is it moning or night that you are suposed to cut it. thanks a bunch and happy easter! Tim




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03-27-2005 19:33:38




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 Re: when to cut hay... in reply to Tim Shultz, 03-27-2005 07:36:54  
Depends on when you have time or if you have time. We do so much of it unless there is a sure chance of rain that discbine is working every day. We usually have one guy mowing in the morning and another tedding the hay that was mowed the day before, both finishing about noon. Meanwhile the other two of us and any help we can get are unloading they baled hay from the day before too eating lunch and continuing till we are done or it is time to bale. Right after lunch or before, weather permitting, we start to rake the recently tedded hay and bale when ready. Start the whole thing over the next day and go till each cutting is done with usually a week or 10 days between cuttings, three full cuttings a year and part of a fourth... everything weather permitting of course and schedueled around the other operations such as milking, sidedressing, delivering hay and whatnot. Been pretty profitiable recently unlike most farming operations!

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kyhayman

03-27-2005 12:18:09




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 Re: when to cut hay... in reply to Tim Shultz, 03-27-2005 07:36:54  
Waiting until afternoon does increase soluable sugars in the plants. It also costs you a days curing. If that means it gets wet, its not worth it. In a practical sense, I've cut day/night/am/pm. Forage tests dont show any detectable difference in RFV, CP, ADF, or NDF and the cows dont seem to care.



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Tom in TN

03-27-2005 08:02:45




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 Re: when to cut hay... in reply to Tim Shultz, 03-27-2005 07:36:54  
Tim,

I read in a farm magazine a few years ago that the sugar content of grass is higher in the afternoon than it is in the morning. They were sort of recommending cutting hay in the afternoon. However, in practice, everyone I know cuts when they can. We have short dry periods here in Middle Tennessee in the spring, so most of the guys around here try to cut in the morning to take advantage of that day's drying time. It normally takes two or three full days of drying at 80 degrees heat, then we rake and bale. It is sometimes tricky to find four dry days in a row. I have been trying to find a hay tedder that I can afford to buy to try to help shorten the drying time, but so far, my money hasn't matched the available tedders.

So, the short of it is, I think you should cut when you can.

Good luck,

Tom in TN

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txblu

03-27-2005 08:39:47




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 Re: when to cut hay... in reply to Tom in TN, 03-27-2005 08:02:45  
Same problem in N. Tx., especially in the spring. Hard to get time for it to dry.

I did cut when I could. Now I'm retired, this year, I'll hopefully be able to do a better job of baling dry hay in the spring.

I cut sudan in the morning as soon as the dew is off the dirt so I don't get things all gummed up. On the grass pasture I cut when I get out there, but still it cuts cleaner without dew on the grass.

I only used a tedder behind a sickle mower cause it clumped the grass especially in turns where the sickle would swing back to make the square corner. Got rid of the sickle pest.

The tedder does a great job of stirring things up and for a fast dry you could run the tedder every couple of hours (on grass) the day you cut.and do the same the next day with baleing starting after lunch. If that didn't work, you could at least bale the next day with a tedder job about 10 am (let the dew get off ground and grass) and start baleing at noon.

I use the 3 twist rule of thumb on sudan, which has thick stems (crimped by the conditioner) and requires more drying time to get the moisture out. 3 twists means put both hands around a wad of hay and start trying to twist it apart with circular motions . If you go around less than 3 times and it pops apart (breaks in half) you're ready.

Usually don't start baleing before at least 10 am and the humidity is the governing factor.

Usually stop as the sun is nearing the 2:30 (position on a clock) in the West. If I get too close to dark, the hay immediately picks up that moisture and changes the baleing conditions. Anything after that has dew on it and ruins.

My 2c

Mark

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