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1954 Roto-Ette

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Mike7468

03-23-2005 08:09:54




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Does anyone have any ideas on replacement parts as in spark plugs, etc. Just got ahold of a 54 Roto-Ette It started for about a minute or so, then It quit, I went and replaced a spark plug I am not sure if home depot sold the right one or not, the one that came was a champion J-8. Dont know the number of the replacement plug. it did start for a few seconds but after that I didn"t get much. Is there like a carb rebuild kit or anything that I can get ahold of?? Any help would be appreciated! Thanks.

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Mike74681

04-04-2005 06:38:32




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 Re: 1954 Roto-Ette in reply to Mike7468, 03-23-2005 08:09:54  
Well I got it started and running, the motor goes in and out. Should that clear up after running it a few times? I tilled maybe a 12foot by 40 section in the back part of my yard it seemed to run alot stronger when it was tilling compared to just idleing. Will a standard fan belt work to replace the drive belt or should I have to order one from somewhere? So far I am real please with the results I got for just using it for a lttle while!!

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supergrumpy

03-24-2005 08:25:42




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 Re: 1954 Roto-Ette in reply to Mike7468, 03-23-2005 08:09:54  
I have been working on a 3 hp roto-ette circa 1951, think it is a model 2, have the original manual plus both kinds of tines/choppers, parts guys have lots of fun teasing me about museums

my 3 hp original engine was replaced with a white painted 3 hp motor, seems to be standard briggs, no points under the flywheel!!!, must fire off when she feels like its a good time to cut loose, runs like a champ, bolo tines are better for rocky ground around cranesville

replaced all 4 oil seals, NAPA had them in stock based on the number on the original seal, pesky persistent oil seepage at lower tiller seam is driving me looney, might toss the works in the mohawk and be done with it

I was told that when Garden Way folded, they had heaps of old Roto-ettes/Troy-bilts taken in on trade sitting in the weeds behind the building, everything went into gondolas for scrap metal, some tavern in Troy near the factory has/had some fully restored machines that used to sit inside factory lobby

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jdemaris

03-23-2005 11:19:06




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 Re: 1954 Roto-Ette in reply to Mike7468, 03-23-2005 08:09:54  
Rotoettes came with two different engines, either a Briggs & Stratton NP or a T - both 1.5 horsepower. They were made in Troy, New York ca. 1948 - so perhaps the first "Troy built?." Ignition points are behind the flywheel and are set at .020" For spark plugs, the engines used either a J8 with 14mm head, or a D14 with the 18 mm head. If you replaced the J8 with something different, it won't make a difference as long as it has the correct threads and the same reach. If the heat range is way off, it won't affect starting - it affects how long the plug with last - stay clean - etc. CJ8 is the same as J8 except it takes a 3/4" wrench instead of 13/16" and takes up less space. CJ6 also works, so will a J8J, etc. You can get parts for the carb.

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J. T. L.

03-23-2005 15:00:41




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 Re: 1954 Roto-Ette in reply to jdemaris, 03-23-2005 11:19:06  
I also have a 1954 Roto-ette. They also came with an optional 3ed model engine . Mine has the Briggs model 9 (3hp) on it. It has a special adapter to mount the larger engine to the smaller bolt pattern of the standard 1.5hp engines. They seem to be few and far between. I have seen only 1 other like it. Somewhere around here, I have sales paperwork showing photos of the model. The only other difference that I could find was that the shafts that hold the tines are 1/16" larger. The same man that designed and built the Roto-ette, went on to build the Troy Built.

John in Pa.

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jdemaris

03-23-2005 19:52:29




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 Re: 1954 Roto-Ette in reply to J. T. L., 03-23-2005 15:00:41  
Yes, I'm sure there were variations. Seems to be the case with most of the small stuff. I'd like to read a full history of the evolution of "Troy-built Rototillers." I've read bits and pieces here and there, and have been told that several machines led to the Troy-built. As I understand it, the title or name "Rototiller" was originally held by Frazier-Simar - or something like that. I've got half a dozen of them in my barn but can't recall the exact name. Model B16 Rototillers with 2 stroke cycle engines and tine-hooks instead of tines. I've never understood the hype over Troy-built tillers, there were and are much better tillers around. But, I live near Troy and have a couple of Horse models, so I'm somewhat interested in the history.

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Mike7468

04-05-2005 11:20:11




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 Re: 1954 Roto-Ette in reply to jdemaris, 03-23-2005 19:52:29  
I have got it running I am pretty pleased with it so far. It has the oil-bath air cleaner on it. While I had it out ysterday I noticed that where the air cleaner end goes into the carb. there seems to be a hole slightly larger than say a needle. Is that supposed to be there to let excess fuel release or did a whole just appear after old age??



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