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Wild Bill Caldw

03-20-2005 19:53:04




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'While back I posted about usin' abraso-weld to hardface bush hog blades. . .and that started a little bit of a stink. . .Not too bad, not bad enough that I wouldn't try another one. You see. . .Abraso-weld works good in other applications, anywhere you need abrasion resistance. Scratcher teeth, backhoe buckets, dozier and grader blades, anything draggin' through dirt, rocks and so on.

Where you have metal on metal. . .Manj Jet is a good rod for build up, hardface with Faceweld 1.

Now. . .if you need a chisel, say a special shape, maybe flat on one side, all the angle on the other. . .or a punch, if you've got a forge (there's millions out there) or an ACT/OXY rig with a rosebud, an anvil or a chunk of iron to use as an anvil, and a hammer, and just a touch of blacksmithin' skill, or want to learn the skill. . .get a good piece of steel, I like older aged, work hardened steel, coil springs from under railroad cars are good. Packard car springs made some of the best forged knives I ever made. Cut out a piece you think will be long enough, heat it red and straighten. Heat it to an orange, hammer the point to the general shape you want, stop hammerin' when the red leaves, reheat as nessecary, grind or belt sand or file to the final shape you're goin' for. Get a magnet. . .heat the cuttin' end from the tip, up an inch or so. . .until the tip loses magnetism, get 50 degrees hotter, quench in oil for a few seconds. . .polish one inch or so from the point back, quickly, and watch the colors comin' down. when brown hits the point, quench again until cool. Might take a little time to get it right. . .You can do it over and over again. Smooth the end you're gonna hammer on, heat to a dark blue. You should have a good chisel or punch with a cuttin' edge that will cut steel easily and the end you'll hammer on will be soft enough not to chip and put an eye out or damage your hammer face. The end your hammerin' on should mushroom slightly. Grind the mushroomin' off ever so often

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Bill Caldwell
Wild Bill Caldwell Custom Weaponry

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Buzzman72

03-21-2005 05:08:46




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 Re: Blacksmithin' in reply to Wild Bill Caldwell, 03-20-2005 19:53:04  
I was always interested in learning about blacksmithing; my grand-dad was a wizard with a torch, a welder, and an anvil and hammer, but he decided that "you boys" [my dad, my brother and I were ALWAYS "you boys" to him] didn't need to know anything about that stuff...I guess he thought he'd live forever or something.

But I never forgot what he said when he found me trying to shape a piece of metal with a hammer and anvil, without the benefit of heat...he said, "Son, there's an old sayin' you oughta learn: You go straight to hell for cold blacksmithin'." Of course, that didn't stop me from trying it; it just kept me from doing it when I'd get caught.

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Sid

03-21-2005 05:03:36




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 Re: Blacksmithin' in reply to Wild Bill Caldwell, 03-20-2005 19:53:04  
Thanks Wild Bill.



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NC Wayne

03-20-2005 21:41:29




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 Re: Blacksmithin' in reply to Wild Bill Caldwell, 03-20-2005 19:53:04  
Hey Wild Bill, I saw the ordeal that went down with the previous post,and I can see your already doing it anyway, but just shrug it off. There are alot of really great guys on this site, all with different ideas and backgrounds...the one thing we all have in common though is an opinion...and you know what they say about those...I'm a mechanic by trade as well as doing a little machining and fabrication when the need arises. As such the responses to your first post didn't suprise me at all. It never ceases to amaze me how ignorant some people can be when they outright tell somebody "You can't do that". The way I see it if I'm holding a 50 year old part in my hand and somebody had the knowledge and the technology to make it way back then then I can dam- sure replicate it today. I agree with what you said in one of your replys to that post. If we all stopped in our tracks and were afraid to take a chance and proceed with what we were doing when somebody told us "it can't be done" then we'd all still be living in caves, and freezing our butts off because fire is too dangerous to take a chance on.....That said I've never had the oportunity to learn any real "blacksmithing". Heating stuff to bend it or occasionally making a special chisel, etc like your describing here (and that's hit and miss sometimes on getting the edge the proper hardness) is about the extent of my knowledge. Where did you learn what you know and can you suggest any good books where I can find a little more in depth information than what's in say the Machininsts Handbook? Thanks and it's good to know that there are still guys out there that still take the time and effort to be true craftsmen..... You may already know about this place but here's a link for you to a place that had alot of blacksmithing tools and supplies

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Dug

03-20-2005 21:29:57




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 Re: Blacksmithin' in reply to Wild Bill Caldwell, 03-20-2005 19:53:04  
Interesting stuff, Wild Bill. I always enjoy watching the Blacksmiths applying their trade at Silver Dollar City. Amazing to see them turn a hunk of steel into something useful.

Thanks for the post.

Dug



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