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dr.sportster

03-17-2005 11:41:59




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OK time to fire up the Irish guys.Did you know St. Patrick was born in Scotland. But wait,it gets better .Scotland at the time was Rome.Sorry guys but St.Patrick was Italian.[That ought to start the old Irish /Italian war going.]




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NEsota

03-18-2005 13:04:03




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 Re: OT;St.Patty in reply to dr.sportster, 03-17-2005 11:41:59  
They told me that the patch of ground that is now Ireland was not very heavily populated until the early explores came to the Americas, took the potato back and introduced it to the European continent. With potatoes the patch would grow much more food. The population then grew a lot and when the famine came people starved.



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Dave140

03-18-2005 19:43:59




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 Re: OT;St.Patty in reply to NEsota, 03-18-2005 13:04:03  
Hey there about St. Patrick. Just to clear some things up. Just so you don"t think I am BSing you guys. I have my degree in History from Providence college, a very Irish Catholic Jusuit school. St, Patrick was NOT from Scotland! Although the Romans had invaded and occupied most of the what is now thew United Kingdom, they never got to Scotland. They couldn"t defeat the Scots so they built a big wall between England and Scotland to keep the crazy Scots out. Patick was born in Wales to the South West of England and was the son of a Welsh Woman and a Roman government official. He was kidnapped and taken to Ireland later on. Dave

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37 chief

03-17-2005 16:17:10




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 Re: OT;St.Patty in reply to dr.sportster, 03-17-2005 11:41:59  
The only thing I am sure of on this day is, in 1964 I left the farm, and was on my way to Navy Boot camp. Great Lakes Training Center. Stan



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Harley

03-17-2005 17:33:12




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 Re: OT;St.Patty in reply to 37 chief, 03-17-2005 16:17:10  
Hey feller. Allen Bishop here. Company A-30, February 1968, Great Lakes Naval Training Station. One day the sun shone, the same day it didn't snow, and the same day it got above zero. THE MOST MISERABLE PLACE ON THE GLOBE UP UNTILL THEN. Later, Harley



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37 chief

03-17-2005 18:02:16




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 Re: OT;St.Patty in reply to Harley, 03-17-2005 17:33:12  
That place was bad. Being from Calif. I didn't a place could get so cold. From there I went to Memphis Tenn.for school, just the opposite very hot. Later Stan



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Coloken

03-17-2005 15:06:32




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 he was stolen in reply to dr.sportster, 03-17-2005 11:41:59  
Acording to the history channel this morning...he was stolen from Rome occupied country and sold in Ireland. I think 8 or 9. He herded sheep for several years for his "master"



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dr.sportster

03-17-2005 12:06:08




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 Re: OT;St.Patty in reply to dr.sportster, 03-17-2005 11:41:59  
No offense to anyone.Attempting bad humor again.It is all true about Scotland and Rome however.He migrated to Ireland later off of a ship.



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Dave140

03-18-2005 19:46:22




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 Re: OT;St.Patty in reply to dr.sportster, 03-17-2005 12:06:08  
It was Wales and not Scotland and he was kidnapped didn't take a ship.



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Bob - MI

03-17-2005 11:54:09




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 Re: OT;St.Patty in reply to dr.sportster, 03-17-2005 11:41:59  
Proves that we Irish are a loving and open minded lot to take in those less fortunate than ourselves and then treat them as one of our own.



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cheech

03-17-2005 11:48:19




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 Re: OT;St.Patty in reply to dr.sportster, 03-17-2005 11:41:59  
Hey Doc? Does that mean that I should put tomato sauce on my corned beef & cabbage tonight?



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Galen

03-17-2005 13:04:51




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 Re: OT;St.Patty in reply to cheech, 03-17-2005 11:48:19  
Or put corned beef in yer pasta.....



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Brian in NY

03-17-2005 13:48:34




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 Re: OT;St.Patty in reply to Galen, 03-17-2005 13:04:51  
I did know about this; and I understand that good ol St. Pat was really not born Irish...but by God and sonny Jesus....once he got to Ireland he renounced all other lands and realized he had found heaven on earth.

This just goes to show you that there is a little truth to the saying "everybody's Irish on St. Patrick's Day". Well, maybe not but I like it anyway being 50% Irish. I really do have relatives still living in Ireland today...although I am ashamed to say I know none of them and don't stay in touch.

Ok Doc, since you are such a history buff....let's hear your telling of the Irish Potato famine...what were the circumstances that led it? Most people don't know the real story there, either.

Happy St Patricks Day...oh and by the way...


"May you always have work for your hands to do.
May your pockets always hold a coin or two.
May the sun shine bright on your windowpane.
May the rainbow be certain to follow each rain.
May the hand of a friend always be near to you.
And may God fill your heart with gladness to cheer you."

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rustyj14

03-17-2005 16:10:54




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 Re: OT;St.Patty in reply to Brian in NY, 03-17-2005 13:48:34  
The potato famine in Ireland was caused by a fungus, or some type of blight, that caused the spuds to rot in the ground. Since the Irish subsisted mostly on potatoes, and the government took away all of the other food-stuffs, this didn't leave the Irish with but one ol' cotton dress, which they couldn't eat, so a famine spread across the land! The English wanted to get rid of the Irish anyway, so the tater blight was used to do that! Then, the English persuaded the Irish to move to America, which they did in droves. A lot of them became "shark bait" because a lot of the people were sick with a variety of bad diseases, and they died at sea! The boat captains had the bodies thrown overboard, with not much in the way of registering any names! When the starving Irish arrived in America, men came around and signed them up to go fight in the Army, which accounted for a lot more disappearances of folks. The Irish, by coming here with nothing, would work for "peanuts" which angered the working folk here in America, so, being hated in the cities, a lot of the Irish and Scotch Irish settled back in the hills of Kentucky and Tennesee, where they could live off the land, and play their wonderful Irish music, without fear of being caught up in a draft for the Army! There were several shows today on the TV, peertaining to Ireland and the things i mentioned above! by: Rustyj

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Brian in NY

03-18-2005 05:58:10




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 Re: OT;St.Patty in reply to rustyj14, 03-17-2005 16:10:54  
If you do some in depth research into the Irish Potato famine which started in 1845 and lasted through at least 1851...there was another big factor on top of the blight, which was a huge problem of course. The blight was actually a fungus that was very aggessive and pervasive.

The thing that most people don't know about/factor in is that in the years of the famine, there was a bumper crop of good potatoes as well. The problem is that increasing monetary demands by English landowers (English lords owned many of the farms in Ireland, and many of the Irish were by definition indentured servants) did not allow the Irish any leway, and thus the only crop they had to fall back on for substinance was that which was decimated by the fungus. The landowners, backed by English rule, would not back off of their demands...as they were interested in lining their pockets of course.
With no good food source to fall back on, many Irish were forced to try to utilize the rotten potatoes in any way they could. They consumed the rotted spuds and ended up with a variety of diseases including Typhus. Of course the folks that died were so poor and so large in number that no one could afford them a proper burial. This led to even more spread of disease and it all snowballed from there.

Eventually, the English did step up to the plate and make changes...but it was too little too late. Estimates for the death toll range from 750,000 to 1.4 million during those six years.

There is an awful lot more to this story...and it seems there are quite a few versions...
I think if you take it all in a lump, you find the nuggets of truth....like anything else.

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dr.sportster

03-17-2005 16:02:12




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 Re: OT;St.Patty in reply to Brian in NY, 03-17-2005 13:48:34  
Brian ,Happy Saint Patricks Day,I saw a program about the famine on tv.It was a sad and terrible thing.I know it was the potato famine.I think I blocked that tv out of my mind it was so bad,I dont think it was insects.It was some kind of fungus and also lack of crop diversity.Was there A drought also that worsened it?not sure.Ive read all of Solomons gold was from Ireland and that it is the oldest country.

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