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STOLEN ALLIS STORY

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Turk

03-17-2005 10:45:46




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Here we go. This all started in '91, when I quit a farm job and had to get rid of some the junk that I had drug in there. I met a collector who agreed to buy a 10-20 IHC from me for $300. Running, on steel, real good tractor for that price. Said he would come right over and get it. Two years later I am still taking heat about the tractor, and my sister wants it, so I tell her to take it and send this guy his money back. She pays me and I send him a check. The guy is chapped about it and defames my character to beat the band, but NEVER says a word to me. Fast forward to this month. This guy comes onto my place, looks through all my stuff, loads my AC 20-35 and leaves. He then goes into town, tells a DEPUTY SHERIFF that he took this tractor to "get even" with my sister, and takes the tractor to his mommies house and hides it in a shed. Two weeks later, I reported it to the Sheriff in person, nobody knows anything about it. My stolen tractor was a fairly hot topic locally, and this guy was telling people that he had it. He calls me early yesterday morning, tells me that he took it because he thought that it was my sister's, and that if I give him $1000 that I can have it back. I said sure, and chatted him up like we were old pals to buy time, and headed for the Sheriff. I was just getting to the part about the deputy when he pipes up. The Sheriff stops him and asks if he knows something about this. As soon as Deputy starts speaking again, the Sheriff closes his eyes and his head droops down. When Deputy and I are done screaming at each other, The Sheriff calls this guy and he tells him the whole story, even tells him that he still has the check for this deal 14 years ago and that he does not want the money, he wants to "get even"! I had to tell them that I would not press charges if I wanted to recover it now. My lawyer says get the tractor back first and we will raise hell later. Guess what, the Deputy, the thief, and the county attorney are all pals!!! I am going to try to ride them into the ground. The State Attorney General's office tells me that the good old boy system don't fly around their place, it's in their hands now. The mighty Green Goose in back home, secure, and UNDAMAGED. Fine police work. Thanks Everybody. P.S.- Hey Allen, can you really zap somebody with a lightening bolt??

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Nolan

03-18-2005 06:28:56




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 Re: STOLEN ALLIS STORY in reply to Turk, 03-17-2005 10:45:46  
Reminds me of the time I was in a hit and run with the county sheriff. Lucky for him I was young and kinda dumb, so he got away with it.



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another doug

03-18-2005 02:58:42




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 Re: STOLEN ALLIS STORY in reply to Turk, 03-17-2005 10:45:46  
Turk, That is an exciting story, I relate to the part about you and the deputy yelling at each other, perhaps we are in the same county, oh, by the way ...did he order you to "calm down"????....It sure took alot gall to go through your barnyard and load up your tractor to "get even" , Now for the State Attorney General to tell you that he will work for you,,,hmmmmm hope it all works out, and you are not victimized any more,I got a few stories myself.I get scolded by the deputies for defending my farm, one even told me to go in and watch tv, that was just after we caught some mailbox bashers, the under 18 aged kids in the van told the deputies that we blocked in the vehicle , after we followed it to town , and banged on their hood, then my wife called them creeps, The deputy wanted to leave out some info on the report so we wouldn't get prosecuted!!! Some police departments are split down the middle, but when you call for help, that's gambling around here... Good Luck with your outcome! another doug

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Turk

03-18-2005 08:01:05




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 Re: STOLEN ALLIS STORY in reply to another doug, 03-18-2005 02:58:42  
Hi another doug, The A.G. told me that I have to press charges, and if I feel that the County Attorney is going to ignore it, to call them back and they WILL investigate this case. But I do have to make an effort first. As far as the deputy goes, they were quit interested, they want my statement on their desk as soon as possible so that they can start his investigation. I have a feeling they have heard his name before, but maybe not with hard evidence and lots of witnesses. And get this, 3 people in this county have offered financial help if I really think we can do something about this clown. It all seems to be too crazy to be true. The sheriff is cool, he is on my side, as he should be. He knows me well enough to know that I would not charge into this without legal counsel, and he has been very helpful the whole time. He has done nothing even questionable. The Sheriff has about ten years before he retires. And he also realizes that his deputy, who ran against him and lost BIG in the last election, kept first hand knowledge of a felony theft he was actively investigating from him. What do you think may happen here??? So if deputy can manage to take on the STATE ATTORNEY GENERAL and win, he can ride me like an old horse for the rest of my life. As for me, I am handing the lawyers my platinum card, closin' my eyes and pullin' the throttle all the way out!!! Bill

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another doug

03-19-2005 02:30:34




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 Re: STOLEN ALLIS STORY in reply to Turk, 03-18-2005 08:01:05  
Turk, Well the best of luck to you, it is a shame that you have to pay your own hard earned money for legal help when it wasn't your fault in the first place. Please go easy when handing out trust also...If the A G can help you without you paying an attorney, that would be the way I'd go, then shoulder any loss from damage from the theft, try not to let those attorneys into your project fund. The less this eats at you the better, unless you enjoy a good scandal. Remember, trust nobody.

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buickanddeere

03-18-2005 11:27:34




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 Re: STOLEN ALLIS STORY in reply to Turk, 03-18-2005 08:01:05  
Are you certain the Sherrif is on your side or playing "good cop bad cop"? Few groups stick together to defend thier own like cops, lawyers, doctors and the 9/11 idiots.



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j meyer

03-17-2005 17:59:13




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 Re: STOLEN ALLIS STORY in reply to Turk, 03-17-2005 10:45:46  
So, Boss Hogg and Roscoe werent on your side, but Enos got it back??? Haha, sorry, but Dukes of Hazzard came to mind as soon as I got done reading your story. Glad to hear you got your tractor back.



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720D

03-17-2005 18:09:44




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 Re: STOLEN ALLIS STORY in reply to j meyer, 03-17-2005 17:59:13  
Boy j meyer that brought back some memories. LOL after reading the story sounds like Dukes of hazards.



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lucasss

03-17-2005 12:08:33




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 Re: STOLEN ALLIS STORY in reply to Turk, 03-17-2005 10:45:46  
we got that good old boy legal dept around here.sometimes its good,sometimes its bad. i sold a guy i didnt know a rebuilt engine for a truck once and he never came and got it. he paid me cash and that engine sat inside my back porch for allmost 5 years. so i finally needed the space and sold it to another guy . a few years later the first guy came back and allmost tore my head off when i said i sold it. was going to give him his money back but before i could explain he hit me in the jaw and my neighbor chased him off with a .45. never saw him again. when comunication breaks down , things can get bad.i did tell the sherrif about it in case the guy did something else..glad you got your tractor back.i dont think you should have to keep and be responsible for something for years,thats worth something.,but i was going to treat him how i would want to be treated. lucas

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Brian in NY

03-17-2005 11:31:29




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 Re: STOLEN ALLIS STORY in reply to Turk, 03-17-2005 10:45:46  
Good work...but a couple a questions. The 10-20 was still on your property, correct? What were the arrangement for pick up? How long ago did the guy pay you?

I sure am glad the law don't roll like that around here.

I think you'll come out of this just fine.



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Paul in Mich

03-17-2005 11:11:51




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 Re: STOLEN ALLIS STORY in reply to Turk, 03-17-2005 10:45:46  
Turk, It sounds as though there may have been 2 tractors of questionable ownership in this story. When you sold the IHC 10-20, either you had the right to sell it or you didnt. If you did, then the question is did the buyer abandon it by not picking it up, or was there an open ended agreement for you to store it until he could arrange to pick it up. If your sister had no legal claim to it, then why would you send the buyer a check to repurchase it? That in my opinion would be an acknowledgement of his ownership. To send him money also would imply that there was no arrangement to pay you storage, and that you still regarded him as the owner. To allow your sister to take ownership and then send him a check is being presumptive on your part, as it is his to set a price not you or your sisters. If it was your tractor to sell, then your sister has no right to sell it. If it was your sisters to keep, then it wasnt your tractor to sell. To assume that the guy you sold the tractor to had some sort of moral obligation to allow your sister to send him what you and your sister deemed a fair price, is again presumptive. You have a legal problem that goes beyond your Allis 20-35 being unlawfully removed from your premesis. That from what I read in your story is a completely separate issue, but probably wouldnt have even become an issue had you followed proper legal proceedures relating to the 10-20. Sometimes a good lawyer is worth the price. Something tells me you haven"t heard the last of this yet, even though you may get your Allis back.

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Turk

03-17-2005 11:48:49




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 Re: STOLEN ALLIS STORY in reply to Paul in Mich, 03-17-2005 11:11:51  
According to the attorneys, in NE with a verbal contract, if you fail to take delivery within one year you are out in the cold. Five years on a written contract. Legally, I did not have to give him a dime, but I did not want to feel like I was stealing his money. The Sheriff in this deal is the only reasonable party, and he agrees that the first half of this story is mooter than moot. We have something called the Statute of Limitations. This guy knew that I needed to move it. I made a valid effort to straighten this out. And the guy never said a word to any of the authorities or myself. Was it a good deal, no. Did I do anything illegal, no. Am I going to feel guilty about it, no.

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Paul in Mich

03-17-2005 12:01:00




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 Re: STOLEN ALLIS STORY in reply to Turk, 03-17-2005 11:48:49  
Turk, Your explaination goes far to substatiate your position. I hope you didn"t think I was impeaching your credibility, but citing the laws, and your legal position concerning the first transaction, gives legitimacy to your position regarding the illegal removal of the Allis. The Sheriff is then right when he says the 10-20 issue is moot as regards to the Allis issue. That being the case, the guy had no reason to "get even", and deserves no quarter. The Deputy may not be out of the woods either, as a crime was reported to him, and he stonewalled. Hopefully, he gets his just due also.

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Turk

03-17-2005 12:24:56




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 Re: STOLEN ALLIS STORY in reply to Paul in Mich, 03-17-2005 12:01:00  
It's cool, Paul, just wanted to get a few more details out. I started buying and selling amongst YT users when all of us would have fit in a high school gym, and have made nothing but friends. But even if I am the biggest %$*&@II^# in the land, he had no right to steal my tractor.



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dr.sportster

03-17-2005 10:52:18




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 Re: STOLEN ALLIS STORY in reply to Turk, 03-17-2005 10:45:46  
So thats what happened to it.Personally I was hoping for some gunshot wounds in the story.Looks like you nailed them legally.That works.



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