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Adding Air Coditioning

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Hurst

03-15-2005 06:20:54




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Is it possible to add air conditioning to an older tractor that has a cab with heat. I was thinking about an older allis hundred seies (190xt, 190, 180, 185, etc.). If it is possible, how much would it cost an how would you do it? Would an addon kit for a truck or car work well too? How would you controll the temp? Also, how would you get cold air from it through the factor blower system and would this keep the tractor from looking original very much and would it be possible to remove the A/C later on if I wanted to restore the tractor and have it look stock? Thanks in advance.

Hurst.

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MeAnthony

03-15-2005 19:00:00




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 Re: Adding Air Coditioning in reply to Hurst, 03-15-2005 06:20:54  
As far as filling the system once you get in place, I knew several people down yonder in Oklahoma who filled theirs with propane. The only problem is, on a 120 degree day, plus the added temp. that the system creates above ambient temp., you have a fair to middlin' chance of, um, explosion.



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Hurst

03-15-2005 15:25:12




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 Re: Adding Air Coditioning in reply to Hurst, 03-15-2005 06:20:54  
Would it be possible to take one off another allis chalmers, since that is what I would want to put air conditioning on. Would almost any other brand of tractor be able to fit on an older one? Someone mentioned a jeep, how did could you rig that up? I want something that will function, be easy to fix, and be reliable. Thanks for all your help so far.

Hurst



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ljl

03-15-2005 08:43:00




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 Re: Adding Air Coditioning in reply to Hurst, 03-15-2005 06:20:54  
you aways use a roof top unit like we use to use on semi tractors and some times combines the unit on roof then two hoses to compressor mounted on engine fairly simple install!!!!!



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Hurst

03-15-2005 09:14:18




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 Re: Adding Air Coditioning in reply to ljl, 03-15-2005 08:43:00  
Where can I find this set up on the internet? All I have been able to find is a self powered 120v RV air conditioners. Where do I find one that has an engine driven compressor? Would this require me to take a big chunk out of the roof of the cab?

Hurst



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gatractorman

03-15-2005 15:16:45




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 Re: Adding Air Coditioning in reply to Hurst, 03-15-2005 09:14:18  
By far the roof mount would be the easiest to install and they work great, but yes it does require a hole to be cut in the top of the cab, may be hard to find a new one on the 'net they are primarily sold and installed by a dealer(like me).



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James2

03-15-2005 09:52:18




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 Re: Adding Air Coditioning in reply to Hurst, 03-15-2005 09:14:18  
Get a condenser package which mounts to backside of the roof. Cat uses this on their dozers and I have one on my IH 4166. This package was also used on other IH models. The evaporater, fans and filter are in a separate assembly which should be mounted in front above the operator, positioned to blow cold air on the operator's head. I believe as was stated earlier, that a combine unit would be a good fit. I would try tractor/combine salvage yards for the majority of the parts. New although available, would be very expensive.

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Hurst

03-15-2005 10:08:35




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 Re: Adding Air Coditioning in reply to James2, 03-15-2005 09:52:18  
Would it be possible to take one off a tractor with a roof mounted assembly and change it over to another tractor that never came with A/C?? Thanks in advance. And how much would it cost?

Hurst



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James2

03-15-2005 11:13:46




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 Re: Adding Air Coditioning in reply to Hurst, 03-15-2005 10:08:35  
Yes, I think you could accomplish this without too much trouble. Probably more work then I want to do but not too bad. The condenser/fans come mounted in a assembly which can relatively easily mounted to both sides of the rear cab frame posts flush with the top. The Cat mounting frame/condenser unit is quite heavy because of the environment it works in, I would suggest the lighter IH version. Cost, I haven't got a clue, maybe someone else can help who knows the tractor scrap business.

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Mike (WA)

03-15-2005 08:41:05




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 Re: Adding Air Coditioning in reply to Hurst, 03-15-2005 06:20:54  
A friend of mine used to use several old Harris combines, rather than one larger one, and he retrofitted all with AC- I think he used Jeep (Cherokee?) systems- because all the components had easily usable brackets for mounting, and weren't molded into the firewall or somesuch, like many other autos. They said it wasn't too difficult, as I recall, but then, he and his dad are wizards with mechanical stuff.

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dr.sportster

03-15-2005 07:15:23




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 Re: Adding Air Coditioning in reply to Hurst, 03-15-2005 06:20:54  
For some stupid reason I removed AC from my 77 GMC truck.It was a lot a components involved ,condenser, evaporator ,pump large iron bracket etc.I cant image putting it all back correctly on the truck it came off of let alone a different vehicle.Then I would need freon 12.Plenty of people have done this sort of thing sucessfully but in cases like this I order a twelve volt fan from Jc Whitney and place it by my head.Its no substitute for real AC.Good Luck.

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UncleTom

03-15-2005 16:46:10




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 Re: Adding Air Coditioning in reply to dr.sportster, 03-15-2005 07:15:23  
What type of freon do you use nowdays in the tractors? Any body ever use that new stuff? Like redtek 12a? Just wondering what would be the cats meow.



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RP

03-15-2005 20:22:33




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 Re: Adding Air Coditioning in reply to UncleTom, 03-15-2005 16:46:10  
Why not get a used R12 system from a junk yard and then convert it to R134? Ylu can get the kit and the 134 refrigerant from Walmart.



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Hurst

03-16-2005 05:14:09




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 Re: Adding Air Coditioning in reply to RP, 03-15-2005 20:22:33  
What system would I need? Is there a particular brand that will fit better? How will I be able to install it to work with the previous blower and heater (Controls, evaporator, etc.)? Thanks for your help.

Hurst



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