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Allan in NE

03-14-2005 04:50:06




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Hi All,

When I was farming and when planting corn on corn, I had to use and insecticide to control the root worms.

Is this still in practice today or is there now a better way?

Allan




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billonthefarm

03-14-2005 16:47:52




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 Re: Old Guy Needs Info in reply to Allan in NE, 03-14-2005 04:50:06  
Well allan something fairly new in corn is GMO corn that is root worm resistant. Now you can prevent rootworm problems without granular insecticides. It is becoming common in some areas to apply insecticide or use the rootworm resistant corn even in a corn-soybean rotation. For some reason yet to be determined corn rootworm beetles have begun to lay eggs in soybean fields in huge numbers. The levels are growing each year and the area effected is increasing quickly. Many areas are dealing with pressures so high the seed treatments dont work. Some farmers are leaning towards using gmo corn and insecticide, both. I dont know if this problem is in your area but it is spreading through the corn belt. The seed treatments seem to work well where the root worm pressure is limited. Otherwise a full rate insecticide or gmo corn hybrid.

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jdemarisj

03-14-2005 07:11:20




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 Re: Old Guy Needs Info in reply to Allan in NE, 03-14-2005 04:50:06  
I'm in Central New York and it's still done here - with mixed results. Depends a lot on soil acidity, weather conditions, and what kind of corn you're planting. And of course, there are new chemicals and recommmendations every year. There's a lot of chemcials that I can use on feed corn, but not on sweet corn grown for human consumption. I know of some local growers (including myself) that have given up on chemical treatments for root worms and ear worms, and have tried leaving plots in pasture for 5 year periods instead. Guess that has mixed results also. My neighbor left one field in alfalfa and peas for 6 years, then plowed it up last year and put in sweet corn. No root worm problems, but he had just as many ear worms as before.

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txblu

03-14-2005 06:02:40




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 Re: Old Guy Needs Info in reply to Allan in NE, 03-14-2005 04:50:06  
Yeah! Go to the grocery store and get it in the can. Ha Ha. LMAO
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I just had to do it to you of all people (Ron).

Sorry but it just struck me as funny.

Yeah I know you don't think it's very funny but I just felt like today was your day to be on the receiving end of a little pun.

Mark



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Allan in NE

03-14-2005 06:31:29




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 Re: Old Guy Needs Info in reply to txblu, 03-14-2005 06:02:40  
Gee Whiz Ron, er I mean Mark,

How's come my turn rolls around so darned fast around here anyway? I thought fer sure that we would at least take turns. :>(

Okay, gotta run. I've got some plowed ground I need to disc, but first I gotta go check the amacity so I'll be able to run with my wheels down. :>)

Allan



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txblu

03-14-2005 06:45:22




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 Re: Old Guy Needs Info in reply to Allan in NE, 03-14-2005 06:31:29  
Now that was fast. Was wondering if you were behind the keyboard this am. Caught your reply on my second pass-by.

Speaking of ampacity, I'm looking at a time lapse picture of lightening bolts taken at night. One in particular is brigher on the lower half than on the upper half.

Been said that lightening comes from the ground. Either this proves them right, or the bolt in fact came from above and the top half had started petering out before the bottom half finished hitting the ground.

Was sitting on a tractor one day and almost stayed too long. Front coming in and all of a sudden I got a tingling all over and my hair stood straight up. I jumped off and hauled it for the house, via the ditches. Fun.

Mark

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Bill from MA

03-14-2005 08:42:09




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 Re: Old Guy Needs Info in reply to txblu, 03-14-2005 06:45:22  
From what I remember, prior to a lightening bolt hit
an electrical zone of some kind is created and the bolt travels in this zone.

All the hair on end stuff confirms it.

Bill



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Mike (WA)

03-14-2005 08:23:57




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 Re: Old Guy Needs Info in reply to txblu, 03-14-2005 06:45:22  
Got into one of those "hair standing on end" deals when on National Guard maneuvers in Yakima Firing Center in the early 70's. Yakima Firing Center is a charming piece of desert about 30 miles square (900 square miles) in central Washington. The tank I was riding in had a blue halo glowing off the end of the radio antenna- The CO circled the wagons, told everybody to get off the machinery, and don't touch the antenna or you'll get off much faster than you planned. I took my little cot into a swale, far enough down not to be the high point, but up from the bottom enough to hopefully clear the flash flood. Nothing happened, and gradually we got back to where we could "do something" with our hair.

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Indydirtfarmer

03-14-2005 05:02:56




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 Re: Old Guy Needs Info in reply to Allan in NE, 03-14-2005 04:50:06  
Some things never change. Only improvement is there's several options with "seed-applied treatments" now.



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Allan in NE

03-14-2005 05:09:54




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 Re: Old Guy Needs Info in reply to Indydirtfarmer, 03-14-2005 05:02:56  
John,

How do you do it? Do you still just drop it with the Gandy type box behind the presswheel?

Thanks,

Allan



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VADAVE

03-14-2005 06:03:11




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 Re: Old Guy Needs Info in reply to Allan in NE, 03-14-2005 05:09:54  
I try not to do corn after corn.
I do put down a insecticide to control root worm and grubs. I use the box dropping behind the press wheels. But as Indy says not many of those left, seems the new stuff is all liquid and seed treatment is coming into play now.
Going away from dry formulation reduces the labor and therefore the cost. I just happen to be of the opinion that the dry ganules work longer. Seed treatment or genitics(sp) would be the only thing better and more costly.

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Indydirtfarmer

03-14-2005 05:15:22




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 Re: Old Guy Needs Info in reply to Allan in NE, 03-14-2005 05:09:54  
I do a seed applied treatment now. Other options are mostly liquid (sprayer applied) Not much left that comes in dry form anymore.



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