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Errin OH

02-18-2005 13:44:21




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I recently had to decide what to get. I opt'd for the case, mainly due to options. Price didn't hurt. Budget only could handel $7000.

Part one - Given a choice which of the following would you have chosen and why.

$5500 - 1970 Case 970 cab, very clean, Started right up (30 deg,not pluged in) ran it for an hour and saw no leaks, blow by, or smoke. 12F 4r power shift. Big honken 401 6cly diesel 85+hp. Run out good no noises or hiccups. Dual pto, cat 2 3pt, 2 remotes. 50% on tires. Over all clean tractor Got it for 5800 serviced and delievered.

$6500 - Choice of two JD 3020s. Both had 8f 2r sync trans, ?" 4 cyl 65hp, and better than 1/2 on tires. One was wide front, the other narrow. Wide front had the nose dinged up a bit, but both were in fairly good condition and paint wasn't to bad either. 3pt dual & pto on both. Didn't get to start up dealer said to cold, and not pluged in.

$6500 - JD4620 Ton-O-HP 1000hrs on rebuild. Not much more known. Looked good but didn't realy get into it after found out 1000 pto only. After market 540 gear box would add $12-1400. Out of price range.

$6500 - AC 180 Great lookin little tractor. 6cyl 65hp. Had intent on buying it until case showed up. 8f 2r (hi-low) dual remotes 540 pto, 3pt, no cab very clean. Ran out good and everything worked. I would have liked this tractor

$6500 - IH806 Poor condition compiared to rest. Engine had a miss and a crap load of new gaskets. Everthing seemed to work but didn't hook it up to load it up. Cab in poor cond as well hinges on door bad door bent and would not shut. Lost intrest real fast.

Part two - What to do now. I have three tractors and only need two. Should reinvest somewhere else. Of the two which to keep, or??? I could drop the ford and put a few $ in the D19 and have a backup to the case (mainly baling). Continue to use Ford to shuttle wagons, rake, and such. Swap tires with the case and let the 19 go.

1953 Ford Jub Recently painted but engine is tired. Runs ok and doesn't smoke. But oil pres drops to 10-15psi operating speed 3-5psi idle after an hour or so. 3pt is weak. Great tires and very usefull. Figure value is about $2500.

AC D19 - Strong running 301 gas, no smoke, leaks or complaints othewr than it doesn't like to start under 10deg. Rest of tractor is so-so with little problems here and there. But is functional. New tires (will fit case), not much paint. As for value maybe a grand ($1000) without new rubber.

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wolfmantractor

02-19-2005 14:46:41




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 Re: 2 part Tractor poll in reply to Errin OH, 02-18-2005 13:44:21  
You likely made the right chioce, especially if you needed more tractor. Now sell the Ford & take that money & your D-19 & buy the 180 AC. The Ford & the 19 will nearly pay for the 180.



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Jeff Oliver

02-19-2005 13:19:09




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 Re: 2 part Tractor poll in reply to Errin OH, 02-18-2005 13:44:21  
Since you had a $7000 lilmit and only used $5800 of it do you think you could sell BOTH the ford and Ac and go back to the dealer and get the Ac you were looking at there? You would never have to worry about having a big enough tractor is one of them broke down as your backup would be more than big enough ot handle everything.

If I wasn't going to do that though I would probably sell the ford and keep the AC since it is in better shape. Besides for some strange reason the Fords usually sell for more than AC's do, or around here anyway.

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greenbeanman in Kansas

02-19-2005 07:38:19




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 Re: 2 part Tractor poll in reply to Errin OH, 02-18-2005 13:44:21  
I expect I'm biased since I owned a 1070 Case.

I like a naturally aspirated tractor for starters. I think you will like the powershift while baling, however it could be a weak point if you have to lay down $$$$ for repairs should it fail. My old custom baler had a 970 and really liked it on his swing swather and round baler.

The cab and AC on my tractor left a LOT to be desired. I expect you will find the same.

In this day and age I would be concerned about dealer support, i.e. parts availability and their repair shop IF needed. Of course I haven't a clue as to what you have available for dealers/brands in your area.

I've always liked the looks of the 970 and have often wished that I had one. I think the 970 powershift would make an excellent loader tractor.

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Tom from Ontario

02-18-2005 19:56:06




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 Re: 2 part Tractor poll in reply to Errin OH, 02-18-2005 13:44:21  
Like you said, I'd have taken the 180 Allis, but the 970 sounds good. One bit of advice, get a manual and follow shifting instructions for the power shift TO THE LETTER. It's easy to unknowingly abuse it and if it goes, you've got a boat anchor with a honkin'big 401. Where we are, and my experiences with them, I would run from any IH. Funny that your 19 doesn't start well. Our 17 starts better than a new car. Thing about a Jubilee, people want them. Should be easy to sell for good coin.
Good Luck.

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J. Schwiebert

02-18-2005 18:38:28




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 Re: 2 part Tractor poll in reply to Errin OH, 02-18-2005 13:44:21  
You did not say anything about the two 3020 tractors, but a 3020 with out the console can be a little expensive on parts compared to the later ones. Which one can you get good dealer service for?



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Rauville

02-18-2005 17:45:02




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 Re: 2 part Tractor poll in reply to Errin OH, 02-18-2005 13:44:21  
You done the right thing! I purchased a 1975 model 970 about 8 years ago for $9000, including a new Allied loader w/ grapple. Never had a complaint, other than having to set up the hydualic pump a little to handle big bales better. I agree...the Ford will have to go.
Good luck with the 970, you'll going to love it!



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richad morgan

02-18-2005 17:59:24




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 Re: 2 part Tractor poll in reply to Rauville, 02-18-2005 17:45:02  

hello,
My name is richad, i came accross your advertized (2 part Tractor poll), i dont know if it is still for sale but if unfortunatelly if is still for sale i will want you to give me your asking price for it and you should provide me the picture and explain the condition to me.
NB: Note that i will be paying you by a certify us cheque draw on us bank



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aFORDable

02-18-2005 16:58:42




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 Re: 2 part Tractor poll in reply to Errin OH, 02-18-2005 13:44:21  
Sight unseen I'd bought the Case and then sell the Ford.



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old

02-18-2005 16:38:06




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 Re: 2 part Tractor poll in reply to Errin OH, 02-18-2005 13:44:21  
Guess I really have trouble I have around 17 tractors and still want more. LOL



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Nebraska Cowman

02-18-2005 15:40:27




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 Re: 2 part Tractor poll in reply to Errin OH, 02-18-2005 13:44:21  
Only 3 tractors and you have one extra??? Who told you that?



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RustyFarmall

02-18-2005 14:25:38




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 Re: 2 part Tractor poll in reply to Errin OH, 02-18-2005 13:44:21  
I think you did it right, the 970 Case has a pretty good track record. Definately the most bang for the buck. Parts and service should not be a problem.



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Butcher

02-18-2005 14:15:50




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 Re: 2 part Tractor poll in reply to Errin OH, 02-18-2005 13:44:21  
I would've bought the Case too.
Dump the Ford. Unless your baling hay when it is 10 deg.



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Jerry Cent. Mi.

02-18-2005 13:58:15




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 Re: 2 part Tractor poll in reply to Errin OH, 02-18-2005 13:44:21  
John Deere 1st, Ford 2nd. The rest would give me parts problems.



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