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Rick Kr

02-14-2005 13:26:26




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This link should work. A guy died yesterday pulling a tree, the picture on the news this morning looked like an 8N. Don't know the guy, but just shows, you should always be as careful as you can.
Rick


http://www.mlive.com/news/fljournal/index.ssf?/base/news-26/1108398016259610.xml




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Joeredneck

02-16-2005 15:15:49




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 Re: Tractor death. in reply to Rick Kr, 02-14-2005 13:26:26  
It's not the little fords fault it is the city slickers coming out in to the COUNTRY thinking that they know every thing. With my NAA I if i start to spin pulling a log out i will lift th 3pt. to give more traction. But i have been around the fords for my whole life. never fliping or getting the front wheels off the groung more then a foot and a half.

If you want to talk about deadly tractors look at the john deere's. How many people have got starting them.

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Davis In SC

02-14-2005 20:46:38




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 Re: Tractor death. in reply to Rick Kr, 02-14-2005 13:26:26  
I would wager that almost all deaths on 8N's were related to tying chain to the top link. As a kid & teen I pulled hundreds of stumps with our 8N....I read the book that came with the 8N countless times( Should have been reading schoolbooks) & it stressed not tying to or above the axle centerline. I always took that advice, & never had the front wheels raise off the ground.....Book even warns to back up if wheels are frozen to the ground...

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KCTractors

02-14-2005 20:32:40




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 Re: Tractor death. in reply to Rick Kr, 02-14-2005 13:26:26  
Please don"t blame the little Fords, other people been killed by every make of tractor there is. COMMON SENSE like the post in the tractor forum. WAKE UP GUYS!



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Mark - IN.

02-14-2005 22:31:38




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 Re: Tractor death. in reply to KCTractors, 02-14-2005 20:32:40  
No arguement here. I agree with you 100%. No tractor has the lock on having the front end come up and over. And when the front starts coming up unexepectedly, it will take your breath away and get the heart pumping like no one's business.

Even when you're as careful as can be, things can happen, and sometimes end very badly, no matter the tractor or implement.

Mark



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Kelly C

02-14-2005 20:01:27




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 Re: Tractor death. in reply to Rick Kr, 02-14-2005 13:26:26  
Dang Fords. They are good little tractors but that top link eye is just to inviting a place to hook a chain. My Gramps always had a chain wrapped around his.
I had pulled out quite a few stumps that way. I guess I was lucky.



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Mark - IN.

02-14-2005 17:32:28




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 Re: Tractor death. in reply to Rick Kr, 02-14-2005 13:26:26  
I guess just about anyone using tractors has had something get the heart beating a little quick and maybe take the breath away. Yep, sure can get away real quick when you least expect it. Has an unfortunate result at times. Very unfortunate.

Mark



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Jonboy

02-14-2005 17:24:12




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 Re: Tractor death. in reply to Rick Kr, 02-14-2005 13:26:26  
Those old 8N's sure roll over backwards really easy. I think you'll find it's because they are a real lightweight tractor combined with a high geared transmission, even first is quite fast. It takes less than a second to flip a tractor over, and it takes the operator a 1/2 to 1 second to realize the front end is lifting, then theres the reaction time for the operator to get their foot on the clutch, that sure doesn't leave much time to react.
I've seen some really interesting take offs done by new operators before. Revving out the engine, dumping the clutch and jerking the chain on takeoff, thats very dangerous, especially on those little N series. Then of course theres that mistake of using that handy dandy toplink pin to use as a hitchpoint. Of course it would wrong to say that it's just new guys that have accidents because it happens to the best of us and it's always sad.

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DCM

02-14-2005 16:23:11




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 Re: Tractor death. in reply to Rick Kr, 02-14-2005 13:26:26  
Aprox. 4 yrs ago, a guy 15 miles from me was trying to tug on a small skid shack with a 8N,skids were sunk into the ground a little too much and the result was fatal too. Dan



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mud

02-14-2005 13:40:42




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 Re: Tractor death. in reply to Rick Kr, 02-14-2005 13:26:26  
Like the article says, by the time you notice you are in trouble it is too late. Why not back out logs when you skid them? Those N series Fords have taken a lot of men to their grave this way. We lost a neighbor pulling a deadfall down. Tractor flipped over on top of him. Just like that poor soul in this article.

Thanks for posting it, don't hurt to be reminded that safety comes first.

mud



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Allan in NE

02-14-2005 13:43:27




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 Re: Tractor death. in reply to mud, 02-14-2005 13:40:42  
Yes Sir,

I agree. Other than pullin' a darned hay rake, those outfits just aren't much good for anything.

Never have liked the little squirts.

Just my take,

Allan



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Ed in Northern VA

02-14-2005 18:20:23




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 Re: Tractor death. in reply to Allan in NE, 02-14-2005 13:43:27  
Like every other piece of equipment they have their uses.
Know the limitations of your equipment- work within those limitations.
Too many people use poor judgement and try to get away with things they know are risky.



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Rod in Smiths Falls, ON,

02-14-2005 13:57:45




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 Re: Tractor death. in reply to Allan in NE, 02-14-2005 13:43:27  
Scary stuff, especially that "too late" line.

Do Fergusons have some disconnecting rig to shut off the 3pt hitch when they rear, reducing traction? I ran across a reference to it in a Massey-Ferguson plough manual. Also, when running the old gray Ferguson on a bush hog, from time to time (usually in an extreme situation) it would inexplicably stop working, having shifted its pto and transmission out of gear.

Would that rig have saved this guy?

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farmerbill in ny

02-14-2005 14:57:42




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 Re: Tractor death. in reply to Rod in Smiths Falls, ON, , 02-14-2005 13:57:45  
One spring my allis d-14 was broke down, my neighbor let me use his massey to-30 to plow with.I was almost done when the plow snagged a big unmoving rock and I was looking at the sky in a blink of an eye.Luckily I got the clutch in in time,backed up and raised the plow and took it back to the neighbor and went home and fixed the allis.(his plows did not have shear bolts like mine)



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Rlach

02-14-2005 18:01:57




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 Re: Tractor death. in reply to farmerbill in ny, 02-14-2005 14:57:42  
I start plowing with father's 9N in 1950 and later with the 8N and I still plow every year. When working with a 3-point instrument, it is IMPOSSIBLE, I M P O S S I B L E to flip over backward; what you described happened to me dozen of time. What is dangerous is to link with a chain directly on the third point. I did it one time with a IH 574 and they have heavy front end, and everyone must avoid that.
Respectfully, Rlach

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farmerbill in ny

02-15-2005 15:59:12




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 Re: Tractor death. in reply to Rlach, 02-14-2005 18:01:57  
It may be impossible to go over backwards in that situation,but it is not an enjoyable experiance.I am simply telling the story to give somebody else something to think about.Common sense is not totally dead at my house.



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Rod in Smiths Falls, ON,

02-14-2005 15:52:31




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 Re: Tractor death. in reply to farmerbill in ny, 02-14-2005 14:57:42  
But will a tractor with a 3pt hitch plough actually flip over backwards, or will the hitch stop it?



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wolfmantractor

02-14-2005 16:10:13




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 Re: Tractor death. in reply to Rod in Smiths Falls, ON, , 02-14-2005 15:52:31  
If the plow is attached properly, the plow will stop it at about 45 degrees- or as you are saying, the hitch.



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Lou

02-15-2005 07:52:53




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 Re: Tractor death. in reply to wolfmantractor, 02-14-2005 16:10:13  
Latley ive been leaving a clevis attached to my primary draw bar, eliminate temptation.



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