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Rauville

02-08-2005 07:36:00




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Just got done listening to a live interview with Jerry Gruenwald, Director of the Energy and Environmental Research Center at the University of North Dakota. The University recently completed a 3 year study of lake bottom sediment from the last 2000 years. Their soon to be released report points to a long lasting drought that will make the 1930's look pale in comparison.
He pointed out that farmers that are irrigating will face one of the biggest challenges of their life, simply because there will be NO water available.
Boy...do I hope this forecast is wrong!

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johndeereman

02-09-2005 14:32:37




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 Re: Drought forecast? in reply to Rauville, 02-08-2005 07:36:00  
as for 2005 in the noetheast it is going to be wet again. now the studies show we are going to be wet for some time we are heading for the same weather pattern that was here in the 40's and 50's the polar caps are melting causing it to be warmer in the north atlantic wich will cause more moisture and cooler temps no matter what happens weather follows a pattern the thirties were dry the eighties were dry you do the math.

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Rick YYC

02-09-2005 07:51:26




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 Re: Drought forecast? in reply to Rauville, 02-08-2005 07:36:00  
I hope it's wrong too, because severe sustained drought could revive a project I heard about to flood the Rocky Mountain Trench to divert water from northern Canada south to sustain farming, cities, whay have you. From what I've read, the plan was made in the 1940s and has been percolating ever since.

This sounds like it has the makings of a Soviet-class environmental disaster, from one end of the project to another. Seems like since the end of the Cold War, this continent is taking on more and more characteristics of the defeated opponent.

But I fear there is so much money to be made in construction and water sales that a lot of folks will push hard for it, and a big time drought like you mention may just be enough of a trigger to get it going.

R

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David B

02-08-2005 16:48:42




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 Re: Drought forecast? in reply to Rauville, 02-08-2005 07:36:00  
Forecasts are nice, but remember who's running the show here. That guy doesnt know squat.
Those guys need a couple old tractors if they spend 3 years studying dirt. At least it could have been scraped off a tractor:)



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paul

02-08-2005 12:30:32




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 Re: Drought forecast? in reply to Rauville, 02-08-2005 07:36:00  
I do not mean to be insensitive, and I especially hear you all on the govt mis-management of water supplies....

But, bring on the drought! Yea! I have been drowned out so many times in the past 20 years, it is so disheartening for me to hear rain in the forcast. I'm sick of rain. With a drought, prices go up, I can actually make some money. 1988 was the driest my dad remembered, and he was alive in the 30's. And that was, still to date, my most profitable year. In '03 we had it very dry here, and I had record corn yields - by a big margin.

Again, I know a drought can be devistating to other regions, and even 40 miles from me they farm sand dunes & get burned out about as often as I get flooded out. I tease my wife that I'm the only farmer who frowns when it rains & dances when there is a drought.

Just have to stick up for my own interests once in a while. :) Tired of cleaning mud out of machinery, welding up all the broken stuff, driving cross-ways through my rows, getting the chain & tractor yet again.....

--->Paul

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caseyc

02-08-2005 09:11:09




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 Re: Drought forecast? in reply to Rauville, 02-08-2005 07:36:00  
i've heard similar reports myself. sure hope not. at least we shouldn't have the dust like the thirties if it were to get that bad. i was reading the argus this morning and they were talking about sioux falls and the lewis & clark water project. sioux falls will start recieving water in 2012 from the pipeline but their water usage will have surpassed the pipeline capcity by 2017. don't people know that you can't build a metropolis where there isn't any water? south dakota can let all the small towns along the missouri die from the low water levels but they will have spent billions to keep sioux falls from drying up. there should be a mandatory law that when the river reaches a certain low that theres no more water released down stream. i know there alot more to this than just my rants but i had to let it out somewhere!

casey in SD

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bb-sd

02-08-2005 11:48:03




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 Re: Drought forecast? in reply to caseyc, 02-08-2005 09:11:09  
I hear ya on the downstream release law - or the politicians doing something to address this issue. The Corps of Engineers has been mismanaging the water for years, it's just been wet enough until recently so we didn't see the effects.

Gov. Rounds and the other upstream gov's met yesterday. Of course, MO's gov couldn't be bothered to show up, but what do they care- they still get plenty of water for "navigation" while we get screwed.

Walleye fishing has been crap for 3 years now thanks to 2 straight years of too much water release during the spawn, more and more boat ramps become unusable every year, and the dollars from the recreation industry are gonna dry up too. And what happens if it stays dry and we start to run out of water for the hydro plants and all the rural water systems that depend on the river? The reservoirs should be filled as a first priority. Anything else should be secondary to keeping water reserves behind the dams.

I'm getting so sick of seeing the river lowered again and again to float some damn barges in Missouri- like their "industry" that can be replaced by trucking and trains is soo much more important than upstream intrests.

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Mike M

02-08-2005 07:44:15




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 Re: Drought forecast? in reply to Rauville, 02-08-2005 07:36:00  
Run a pipeline down here to Ohio,we've had so much water last year and this year everything is flooded over many roads are still closed.



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txblu

02-09-2005 05:04:31




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 Re: Drought forecast? in reply to Mike M, 02-08-2005 07:44:15  
While you're at it extended it on down to N. Texas.

Mark



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steveormary

02-08-2005 10:42:57




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 Re: Drought forecast? in reply to Mike M, 02-08-2005 07:44:15  
Ya,they just keep buiilding, What about cities loke Pheonix,Tuscon and others in the great south west. Where will they get water.

steveormayr



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Rob in Mo

02-09-2005 02:01:11




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 Re: Drought forecast? in reply to steveormary, 02-08-2005 10:42:57  
The summer of 2005 is supposed to be extremely dry due to El Nino.If you think you'r going to need hay be sure to buy early,right out of the field as supply will be short and high priced later.



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