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Time to Stir The Pot

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Allan in NE

01-13-2005 11:49:26




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Okay Fellas,

The least favorite farm jobs to me would include ridin’ an open-station plow tractor in the month of March on a blustry day, cuttin’ seed potatoes, pullin’ pig weeds, thinnin’ beets with a short handled hoe, feeding ear corn into a table grinder with a spud fork, AIn’ cows, flood irrigating and unplugging the house’s sewer system.

But the all time great when it comes to gut wrenching farm jobs, from my standpoint, is putting up hay using small square bales.

It’s hard for me to believe that people would actually use this method to handle hay.

Your serve,

Allan

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Bob in KY

01-17-2005 12:16:42




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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to Allan in NE, 01-13-2005 11:49:26  
Memory lane, here I come!!! I remember bailing small round bails (out of the 1955 Allis Chalmer bailer) of alfalfa in the heat of summer. We got paid 1 cent per bail and loaded and hauled from 6:00am until well after dark. Lunch was cold weiners and iced tea. A dip in the nasty smelling cow pond was a welcome relief from the itching alfalfa that found its way down the back of your shirt.

I remember running down the 200 pound hog that did not get cut with the litter. Dick and I would wrestle it down in the field and I had to hold it down while he WALKED back to the house to get the razor blade and iodine.

I remember marking hogs and the sows trying to tear the barn down.

I remember hand shovelling earcorn into the crib. As the corn level rose, another board was put into the door, until we were throwing at a hole a good 4 or 5 feet over our head.

I remember sneaking a nap on a rainy afternoon in the corn crib. The rain pelting on the tin roof would put me right to sleep.

I remember getting flogged by Grandpa's capon rooster, and chased by the darn geese when I went frog gigging.

AHHHH> Those were the days.....we couldn't wait to get off of the farm and now I will give everything I have to get back. Thanks for the moment gang!!

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Robert Cornell

01-15-2005 06:51:48




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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to Allan in NE, 01-13-2005 11:49:26  
Ha Ha Ha.....better get used to it Allen if your post about the Hanoverian Stud comes true! Of course....you now have the opportunity to acquire some new(different) equipment.....



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37 chief

01-14-2005 17:57:44




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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to Allan in NE, 01-13-2005 11:49:26  
Here is one I thought of. When I was young I got the job of poking wires on a stationary bailer,there was someone on the other side to tie the wires together. The bailer was run by a big old flat belt. The dust was everywhere. When I got older I got to help feed the hay into the bailer. I thought my arms were going to fall off. I would give a lot to relive one of those days, just to hear Dad say you need to work faster. Stan

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Redmud

01-14-2005 17:43:44




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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to Allan in NE, 01-13-2005 11:49:26  
Aw Dude, I wont be able to sleep tonight for thinking about them good old days. I remember things like picking cotton from daylight till dark, and if you didn't pick your quote, you went to bed without supper. Then there was the walking 5 miles to school in the winter barefooted with 12 inches of snow on the ground, walking uphill both ways, and always into a 25 mph north wind. Then I looked forward to getting home to the wood choppin, hog sloppin, cow milkin, chicken pluckin, ice bustin. This is to depressing, I gotta find a beer..

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rogman

01-14-2005 13:24:49




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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to Allan in NE, 01-13-2005 11:49:26  
"parently" not many of us cotton pickers left. Bent over all day for weeks on end, pullin a 9 ft. pick sack, tryin to get to the short rows, shade and water jug. Bout 105 in the sun and humid to boot. Good ole days.



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JoeK

01-14-2005 10:58:09




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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to Allan in NE, 01-13-2005 11:49:26  
Grew up with old style stanchion/overhead mow dairy barn.No way to utilize round bales.Squares outta the mow beat loose hay all to heck,same with straw for bedding.The two things that come to mind foremost are pickin and throwin frozen corn silage or haylidge for an hr twice a day,or later fixin a busted silo unloader(always on the coldest or hottest days and always short one tool or nut/bolt)and the second,unloadin a couple hundred bushels of manure by hand on a sub-zero winter mornin,when the spreader apron froze and busted..before the whole load became a giant turdsickle.Different problems between dairy and crop farming but things equaled out.

PS:Then there was the "longest walk",walkin a mile home from the far fields,to let Pop know his trusted kid had once again managed to plant a tractor belly deep in that"soft spot" he warned ya about :(

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deano

01-14-2005 09:11:19




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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to Allan in NE, 01-13-2005 11:49:26  
some of the worst jobs to me were spreadin manure in the wind...having the manure spreader freeze of chain brakes...balin hay was hard work, but some of the best memories...carring milk in the winter to the milk house bulk tank 100 feet away was no picnic in winter...bringin the dairy feed with the wheelbarrow wasn't much fun either...dredgin the drywell....Wish i could re live it...



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Hayman

01-14-2005 08:58:11




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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to Allan in NE, 01-13-2005 11:49:26  
Ever put up loose hay? Doesn't sound like it.



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SuperCmore

01-14-2005 07:26:27




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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to Allan in NE, 01-13-2005 11:49:26  
Puttin up small square bales was fun!! All the neighborhood boys would get together and help their respective fathers. Did it most all summer long from 10 to 20 years old. Worst job, and I'd bet not many of you have done it, is Ringing 500 pound Sows!! With a piece of No. 9 wire with a loop in it...even worse yet was catching a sow who's ring was in too deep and her nose was getting infected! Had to catch her, cut the ring out with side cutters, apply alchol, and re-ring...she wasn't really up for that!! You had to be fast, brave and strong!! Cmore

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kev@ia

01-14-2005 06:59:46




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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to Allan in NE, 01-13-2005 11:49:26  
Mucking out portable 8x16' hog buildings with only 4 foot of head room, and some of it will be frozen down.



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Jim@concordfarms

01-14-2005 05:44:14




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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to Allan in NE, 01-13-2005 11:49:26  
Hi Allan. Worst thing about farming to me is heading down the driveway, going to town to work for a stuffed-shirt S.O.B. because my family's medical insurance premiums are 650.00 a month. I could make it farming if it wasn't for that. I hope those folks at Anthem-Wellpoint enjoy my money! Jim.



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Indydirtfarmer

01-14-2005 06:08:58




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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to Jim@concordfarms, 01-14-2005 05:44:14  
You read my notes.....That is the ONLY reason I work my beloved "day job". My wifes employer has insurance that will pick me up after July 1st. At that point....ADIOS!



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Nolan

01-14-2005 05:35:23




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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to Allan in NE, 01-13-2005 11:49:26  
Clearing blocked rows on fields of irrigated corn. Absolutely horrid job.



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Allan in NE

01-14-2005 06:23:04




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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to Nolan, 01-14-2005 05:35:23  
Hi Nolan,

Wow! What a nightmare you have just dredged up.

I've been over on the IH board screamin' about the advantages of the rollover plow to the point that they are totally sick of me.

But, this is the exact reason. That darned field has to be "irrigation ready" before the crop is ever planted.

Yep, I know where you are coming from on this one. UGH! :>(

Allan



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Indydirtfarmer

01-14-2005 06:39:59




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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to Allan in NE, 01-14-2005 06:23:04  
I'm having a tough time picturing all of this.....You annoying someone? I've never heard of such a thing!!!! Give those RED-devils all you got!

I've got a line on a 3 bottom Deere 2-way plow myself. Might just add it to the collection soon! John



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Allan in NE

01-14-2005 07:14:56




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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to Indydirtfarmer, 01-14-2005 06:39:59  
Hey John,

Well, at least now you're startin' to listen to me, ya rednecked, overpaid, trasher, you. :>)

Gotta admit, I've kinda been thinkin' bout this JD 4x18" roller myself. Seems like it is in pretty good shape and I don't mind that green paint one little bit!

Whadda think it's worth? $3500?

Allan

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Indydirtfarmer

01-14-2005 09:03:43




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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to Allan in NE, 01-14-2005 07:14:56  
The one I'm looking at is circa 1955....It's priced at a whoppin' $600. I'm not that up-to-date on the newer 2-ways. Sounds like a bunch, but there's a lot of plow there. What model # is it? I've got a few price guides and such at the house. I'll look to see what they say. You just won't find many of those back here in REAL farm country! John



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farmweld

01-14-2005 05:08:12




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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to Allan in NE, 01-13-2005 11:49:26  
for me its shoveling out drainige ditches when its snowing and raining in the winter. (rainings worse) getting all that cold water in your boots, even with gore tex.



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Greg in OH

01-14-2005 04:55:46




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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to Allan in NE, 01-13-2005 11:49:26  
Shoveling moldy, dirty shelled corn from the outside of the grain bin toward the center to try to level the corn. It was about 85 outside that day and I know it was over a 100 in the bin. We would bust a$$ for about two min. then you had to climb up and stick your head out hatch door to get some fresh air. When we were done my face was a black as coal except around my nose and mouth where the dust mask had been. I couldn't wait to get back in the hay mow that afternoon.

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leland

01-13-2005 23:20:10




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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to Allan in NE, 01-13-2005 11:49:26  
#1 mowing electric fences with a bathtold mower #2 walking beans #3 scooping cow crap by hand #4 being stuck in barn stacking bales would rather be on wagon #5 sitting at elevator for 3-4 hours to dump corn other than that I love most farm jobs



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SAH

01-13-2005 22:12:41




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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to Allan in NE, 01-13-2005 11:49:26  
I always liked making hay, we would make around 6-9000 a year. For a while we had a bale chute so we would pile the hay on the wagon and then unload it into the mow, so we handled each bale 2x in one day. Working with a thrasher wasn't fun but stooking oats with neetles in it sucked. The worst though was shoveling off the top of the manure pile in the winter (Eastern Canada)when the manure came off the barn cleaner.

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Migraine

01-13-2005 21:23:39




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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to Allan in NE, 01-13-2005 11:49:26  
The two worst jobs I can recall from my days in Southeast Iowa were 1 Grinding corncobs after corn shelling and then shoveling them up into the loft above the swine farrowing house. Could not breathe for hours and 2 pitching mowed hay onto the wire netting for sun shades out in the hot sun for those precious pigs. If ham and bacon weren,t so darn good I would have went on strike (and probably hungry too!)

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John A

01-13-2005 20:49:05




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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to Allan in NE, 01-13-2005 11:49:26  
Evening Gentlemen, Let me add my Favorite jobs here.... LOL,
1st Being a Panhandle Farmer lets add, my all time favorite.....Mid-Nov., on an open station JD 95 combine, cutting milo, high North wind, Just how much milo dust and chaff can you eat, suck down into your lungs, get down inside ALL your chothes???!!! Absolutely nothing worse!
2nd least favorite.... late Aug,first part of Sept., shredding ditches prior to any snow fall. Lets see pig weed,johnson grass + umerious other noxious weeds that makes so much dust you have to take a chainsaw to cut a hole in it!!
All of this done on a MF65. Thunder you are so close to the ground the rattlesnakes have a even shot at hitting you when they strike. Not to mention your new nickname is "pigpen" because of all the dut and crap you are in the middle of.
Been there, Done that! more times than I care to count.
Later,
John A.

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David B

01-13-2005 20:17:07




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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to Allan in NE, 01-13-2005 11:49:26  
The two things I hate the most are:
1. Anything with cattle. Never liked them, didn"t help when I had a cow get me down a couple years ago.
2. Pouring cement on a hot day. That skeeting board gets really heavy fast.

Been years since we put up little hay bales, so I never got in on the fun. But I"ve heard stories...



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thejdman01

01-13-2005 19:45:40




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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to Allan in NE, 01-13-2005 11:49:26  
hay never bothered me unless it was in the mow near full. for some reason never liked putting corn into the crib. although we all knew when it got time to take it out wed get a chance to get out the 22 and see if we coudl hit the rats. then the barn cats always had good eating. never had any choke on the bullets. never liked as a kid way back when we hauled cattle and you ahd to take the grates out of the trailer after they were frozen. never failed no matter how careful you were after washign them down (it wasnt ever enoguh to get the most of it off) youd come in with it all over you.

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Milton Daniels

01-13-2005 19:24:15




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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to Allan in NE, 01-13-2005 11:49:26  
I am surprized that no one mention cotton farming in the 20's to the 50's I know up north it gets hot 90 or so but here in Texas 100 plus with either 70to 90 percent humidity could cause one to go to college and try city life



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Hal/WA

01-13-2005 18:36:59




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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to Allan in NE, 01-13-2005 11:49:26  
The small square bales were hard, dusty, hot work, but it sure kept us in shape for football! I bucked bales every summer from the time I was 12 until I went to college. And the baled hay was a lot easier than dealing with loose hay. The only real bad job was stacking up to the rafters in a hot unventilated barn. Loose hay was a lot harder, unless machines were used One of my friend's father had a hay chopper that he used to put his loose hay in their barn. He had a hay rack on his tractor loader that allowed him to hardly touch the loose hay by hand at all, but that was the dustiest job I ever helped with.

I think my all time worst farm job was cleaning out an old chicken house. The manure was about 18 inches deep and had been there for at least 5 years. The people who bought the farm with that 20 by 40 chicken house wanted it cleaned out to use for storage. A buddy and I agreed to clean it out for, I think it was $50. We worked for over a week on the job, finding that the only way to get the manure broken up small enough to shovel was to pound at it with a pickaxe. It wasn't as hard as concrete, but it was darn hard! And dusty. And stinky..... We were about half done before we figured out that it was much easier and healthier if you soaked the manure down with a hose. We finally finished the job and the owner was very pleased, but we earned way less than $1 per hour--lousy wages even in 1968. We both learned something though. Don't agree to do a job unless you really know what that job is and how long it will take.

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Old Time Farmer

01-13-2005 18:35:26




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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to Allan in NE, 01-13-2005 11:49:26  
All those votes for square baling and milking, that's about all I've done for the last half century! I like those jobs, give me small squares over the waste of those big rounds any day. Another dirty job I've always liked is cutting pigs.

Here's some unpleasant jobs:

1. Stacking straw from the threshing machine.
2. Poking wires on an old wire-tie baler.
3. Picking (corn) husking by hand. My Dad could always take two rows and make that corn rattle off the bang board and I had a h*ll of a time keeping up. With snow on the corn, you'd be mighty wet and cold by the end of the day.
4. Shoveling off loads of ear corn up over the crib sides.
5. Leveling and Putting the cap on the hay sileage in a stave silo on a 90+ day.
6. Up the silo to chip the frozen corn sileage off the walls in the dead of winter.
7. Shoveling out every door and bunk after a snow.
8. Mounting a 2MH picker on a Super M.
9. Cutting ice for the icehouse off the river. Cold, wet and those ice blocks were heavy as a little runt kid.
10. Cutting stove wood with a bucksaw. Had a lifetime of that by age 14.

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NC Wayne

01-13-2005 18:28:22




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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to Allan in NE, 01-13-2005 11:49:26  
I grew up working on the equipment, but not on a farm so I don't know that much about what it is to be a real farmer except what I've been told. Dad on the other hand grew up on a tobacco farm so he knew it well. He always said the worst job on the farm was hanging the stalks in the tobacco barns to cure. He said it was always HOT and between the heat and whatever it is in the tobacco that gets on you, it was a MISERABLE job.

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Doug Anderson

01-13-2005 18:10:53




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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to Allan in NE, 01-13-2005 11:49:26  
Spreading decompossing crab scrap, from the picking house, onto the bean stubble with a lime speader.
This draws large flocks of seagulls (wear a hat).
Drive an open station tractor so you can hear the man in the speader clearing the clogs with an iron rod.
Now it is your turn in the speader!

Doug



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wolfmantractor

01-13-2005 18:02:43




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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to Allan in NE, 01-13-2005 11:49:26  
Always thought of it as kind of fun. Give me a pick-up truck and 14 minutes & I have 50 bales ready to roll to the shed(myself & I'm 61) Can tedd, rake, square bale & haul with truck up to 600 bales in a day. Must admit 300 is a much nicer day's work for this old codger. But 6 or 8 pick-up loads ain't bad unless the hayloft is up there tooo high, then your talking work.



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Dave From MN

01-13-2005 17:26:01




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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to Allan in NE, 01-13-2005 11:49:26  
Well I myself love making the small bales. Brings back memories of the way things were. The worst farm job I have to say is raising the "slat's" in a layer barn in a very humid year. About 1 years worth of very strong manure to walk in an enjoy. As far as I am concerned all farm jobs are better than going to work for some one else, never doing good enough, always expected to make apple juice from lemons and never having that feeling of " this is all mine". Give me a farm over working out anyday. It makes men be men.

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Jonboy

01-13-2005 18:25:15




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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to Dave From MN, 01-13-2005 17:26:01  
I've worked for farmers and I always got the cruddy jobs, like cleaning the parlor walls, forking off the rotten stuff off the bunks, cleaning rotten grain out from under the indoor grain silo after somebody had an accident and a bunch of grain got spilled and left for a few weeks and got full of bugs and STINK!!!!, then they'd ask me to clean it up. I worked this past summer for a family farm owned by 2 brothers and don't know as I want to work for another family farm. They gave me all the jobs nobody else wanted and when I got done those they sent me home. Jobs such as cleaning the chaff from the floor of the hay mow (super dusty and diry), grease equipment for someone else to use. Blaming me for everything that got broke on the place because I was the farms only employee and they didn't want to point the finger at family members. They didn't seem to appreciate what I could do, and would complain about what I couldn't and would they ever get mad when I made a mistake!. I'll never forget this summer when I was raking hay and one boss came down and spelled me for lunch, while I was gone he had an accident and managed to break the PTO shaft in two on the rake when he turned too sharp with the tractor and it made contact with 1 of the 3pt arms, he told his brother that I had done it and I didn't know how to drive a tractor. The truth was I had been using that rake for 2 days and hadn't done a thing to it, he had it for half an hour and broke it. Then there was the pickup truck, one brother owned a 3/4 ton pickup truck, the other brothers son had an accident with the truck and ended up destroying $4,000 worth of parts in the front end, the brother who son had done it had to go pull the pickup out of the cornfield where he had gone off the road and buried it, didn't tell his brother about it and led him to believe it was me who wrecked his truck. Nice to work for somebody isn't it?.

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Kelly C

01-14-2005 08:47:09




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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to Jonboy, 01-13-2005 18:25:15  
Dont go back to that bunch.
Good farm help is hard to find. Pretty soon they will run all the help off, then they will have to deal with thier own defects.
I have worked for Farmers before and have done some crappy jobs and got to use the good stuff too.
Most will test you with a crappy job to see how you react. if you react correctley you garner thier trust.



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RickL

01-14-2005 06:43:40




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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to Jonboy, 01-13-2005 18:25:15  
Jonboy; Leave that bunch; I own operate a farm and have employees at times to help out. When it comes to doing the dirty jobs I am ther with the employee also doing it. And he is with me in the fun jobs. Trust me there are some nice farmers to work for who do care.



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Jonboy

01-14-2005 11:06:10




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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to RickL, 01-14-2005 06:43:40  
These 2 brothers were the type that gave you a job to do and said "see ya later", they didn't work with me very much and didn't care diddly about me. I still think they are wondering why I stopped coming and quit working for them. The pickup truck incident was pretty much the straw that broke the camels back. One brother was dishonest and wouldn't confess to anything that he or his kids did and would say I did it. They had a son thats partially retarded and "simple", and they'd talk to me and treat me like they do him and that got very annoying, I hate being treated like an idiot. I don't work there anymore, but I'd imagine they'll be giving me a call in the spring for planting because I did do good work, never stole nothing, and tried my best to do a good job, and they liked that, but they weren't very nice to work for and they don't have a hired man anymore and most people can't work for them.

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Old Pokey

01-13-2005 18:57:06




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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to Jonboy, 01-13-2005 18:25:15  
There are people like that everywhere you go. It's not just farms. If you really enjoy the farm life, dont give up. You'll find a place that will appreciate what you do.



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Allan in NE

01-13-2005 17:50:32




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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to Dave From MN, 01-13-2005 17:26:01  
Amen to that. A double Amen to that!

Allan



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Old Pokey

01-13-2005 17:48:24




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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to Dave From MN, 01-13-2005 17:26:01  
I disagree with the "men be men" thing. I work out on a farm. I have to, my farm was taken away when my dad was killed on the home farm. He did'nt have things in order I guess, but anyway. I work on a farm and I'm damn proud of it too. I'm in a position of trust and my boss wont have anything to do with the "employee, employer" thing. As far as he's concerned, I'm as important to the farm as he is. And as far as I'm concerned, it's my farm too and I do the very best I can.

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Dave From MN

01-13-2005 18:07:20




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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to Old Pokey, 01-13-2005 17:48:24  
Agreed. I worked for many a farms also. Still might some day. My reference was more to the corperate area and how employees are only a numberand big shots only care that the have an OSHA fine rather than call the employee injured and see if the family or employee is ok.A farm business it seems you hears thank you's good jobs, and lets get a beer,I worked out myself untill recently and gave up a 6 figure salary to get back in control of my life. I was lucky, i was had that oppurtunity. Many people dont. I miss the days when everyone helped eachother succeed. These days it seems people want the other to fail so they can gain from it. Not the life I want to show my kids

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Old Pokey

01-13-2005 18:51:31




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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to Dave From MN, 01-13-2005 18:07:20  
Ok, I'm sorry. I just seem to get a little annoyed sometimes when people appear to look down on others because of their employment status. I had to make a choice some time ago, whether to go back to school and try for a corperate job of somekind so I could get my own farm, which require that I be miserable for how ever many years that would take. Or, I could take a chance and find a farm that needed what I had to bring to the table and just be content with that. I chose the farm now choice. I know I'll never be financially well off enough to get my own farm this way, but I do consider myself a very lucky man to have found this position and yes, the owner does say "thank you", as do I for letting me be a part of his farm. I too feel that the farm life or even just country living is a great way to raise a family.

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Allan in Ne

01-13-2005 17:53:43




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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to Old Pokey, 01-13-2005 17:48:24  
OP,

Hired men aren't 'working out'. They have just come on in. Hired men are nothing less than equal family in my book.

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Mike (WA)

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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to Allan in Ne, 01-13-2005 17:53:43  
Hear, hear! My cousin has worked on a dairy farm for over 25 years. Owner has two sons who he hoped to bring into the operation. One has continued to work on the farm, but has no ambition and no interest in taking responsibility. The other son was much more competent, but he married a lawyer and moved to the big city. Finally, the owner told my cousin, "Well, I'm determined to have a partner in this operation, so I guess you're it". Gave my cousin half interest in the cattle and machinery, now they share management (they both always shared in the labor). During the low milk prices of a few years ago, cousin wasn't too sure whether ownership was a blessing or a curse, but he's smiling a little more now that things are better. Pretty classy deal, if you ask me.

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sammy the RED

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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to Allan in NE, 01-13-2005 11:49:26  
Cleaning calf pens in the spring.



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Scratchin

01-13-2005 17:17:27




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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to Allan in NE, 01-13-2005 11:49:26  
After readin all them posts I guess no one has ever rolled any oats. Man I itch just thinking about it.



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Al in PA

01-13-2005 18:22:58




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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to Scratchin, 01-13-2005 17:17:27  
I hated crimping oats! You"re right - itch like crazy after that. We had a customer who raised race horses and we"d crimp the oats for the barns where he kept his best horses.



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Allan in NE

01-13-2005 17:48:39




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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to Scratchin, 01-13-2005 17:17:27  
Listen Scratch,

Don't get me started on that. We'll deal with that subject tomorrow or in 10 years. :>)

But, come to think of it, how come the weight and the volume doubles anyhow? :>)

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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to Allan in NE, 01-13-2005 11:49:26  
Hi Allen,

My father always says that the two coldest places in the world to be are either on a horse or an open cab tractor in winter. Well there is another, try roading a jammer down the flightline in the middle of winter. I don't think you can put enough on to keep you warm.

later days mate,
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Indydirtfarmer

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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to Allan in NE, 01-13-2005 11:49:26  
Allan.....I do believe you're loosing your touch....This pot stirring has yet to yield any blood letting. That's not the Allan of old

OK....On the "job I can't stand" One word...Holstiens. Kroger has all the milk I'll ever need.Why milk a cow. The happiest day in my life was whendad said he was "getting out of the dairy business" There was only ONE part of the entire issue that I liked....Filling the silo. Other than that..... .Bleeeee eeecch!

On "idiot cubes" (small squares) It wasn't fun, but it wasn't the worst thing ever....Now I have a round baler for 2/3rds of the hay I sell, and a bale accumulator for the other 1/3rd, and all the straw. Once again, there's worse things to be doing. (Like my 2004 taxes. Once again Bleeeee eecch!)

In the last couple years, small squares have made a few nickels for us.

My wifes father grew a BIG tobacco crop every year. He tried to get me interested in it.....Never did stick. Too many strange looking bugs on that stuff...

Nothing about farming is easy, but the "office" you go to everyday makes it all worthwhile. John

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Allan in NE

01-13-2005 17:42:54




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Hi John,

Aw heck; wasn't trying to spill any blood. Just wanted to get a topic going to try to heat up the day. It got clear up to -1 out here on poverty hill today. :>)

One time when I was a wee lad of about 12 or so, my dad had an 11-acre hay field that laid just out west of the corrals.

For some darned reason, and I still don't know why to this day, but he let the neighbor come in there with his brand new IH square baler and warp it all up nice and pretty.

Neighbor was so darned proud of himself 'cause he walked thru that field in no time at all and then he and his shiny new baler went home. Heck, all we had left to do was simply move the bales down to the end of the field and stack 'em next to the feed bunks. Dad even bought us three brand new red handled hooks for the occasion. :>)

Dad did the buckin', Mom drove the rack and my brother and I stacked.

By the second load, my brother got to cussin’ dad. First, I started cussin' my brother because he was cussin' dad; then after some reflection, decided that maybe he was right on topic and then I also got to cussin' dad. ‘Fore long, mom got to cussin' us boys 'cause we were cussin' dad. Another load later and dad was sweatin', he was tired of throwin' those cussed 90lb bales, and then he too started cussin' the neighbor and his darned baler!

That was 50 some years ago and there has never been another square bale on the place since.

Those darned brand new, $3, red handled hay hooks are still hangin' on a nail down there on the farm in the garage to this day.

The whole family at supper that night pretty much was in agreement that puttin’ up hay using a small square baler bordered somewhere between total lunacy and a complete ancestral inbreeding disorder. :>)

Allan

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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to Allan in NE, 01-13-2005 17:42:54  
Somehow, I just KNEW you were talkin' about an IH baler! From the hay-handlin' I did as a teenager, it seems that the IH balers would CONSISTENTLY make 90-pound bales. Since we had horses, and were on the BUYING end of the hay-handling, the more 90-pound bales, the better.

A Deere baler--Dad, who was a dyed-in-the-wool Farmall man, always called it a "bundler" if it was green--would make a bunch of 50-60 lb bales, and then give you the occasional 90-pounder when you least expected it [or least needed it].

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RayP(MI)

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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to Allan in NE, 01-13-2005 11:49:26  
Suprised no one mentioned carrying irrigation pipes. We had the ones that laid on the ground, and after every set, had to go out in the muddy field and carry each 30' pipe over 90' and relay them. In potatoes, you had to step up over each hilled row. Then there were the mosquitos, every time you bent over to pick up a pipe, they'd hit you like someone threw a handful of gravel in your face. Had to wear denim jackets, long pants, boots, hats with ear flaps, and lots of greasy old 6-12 insect repellant. Gads that was miserable. Corn was as bad, as you had to hold the pipes overhead as you carried them. Then the sprinklers were on risers, and that meant an extra trip to carry the sprinkler. they would tip over from time to time, so we had to drive a steak in the ground with each sprinkler and tie the sprinkler head to that - required you to carry a hatchet to pound the steak in too. Plus getting the corn leaves in the eyes. Then you weren't done - once you restarted the pump, had to walk the line and see that you didn't get sand into the sprinklers and that they were properly rotating. Also had to check that nothing got into the lines during changeover. Often picked up a pebble, frog or mouse that plugged one of the sprinklers. That meant a walk back to the back of the farm to shut down the pump, then go back and remove the blockage, then back to the pump again. Removing a frog thru a 1/4" hole wasn't pretty - I used to carry a piece of fencing wire and tried to remove it in operation at 70# pressure. Some times I was successful, sometimes not. Guaranteed a faceful of ugly swamp water every time! Not much fun, but I knew it had to be done.

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Miss b havin 36

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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to RayP(MI), 01-13-2005 16:37:00  
You forgot to mention going to school muddy and moving lines under preassure and rattle snakes! been there done that, also how about hand picking those potatoes behind the digger? When ever I think the day is pure sh@@, all I have to do is glance at my old spud belt and realize things are not too bad....Hauling hay was a cake walk!



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Bob Clark

01-13-2005 16:30:49




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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to Allan in NE, 01-13-2005 11:49:26  
I'd have to vote for riding a tractor with a half cab (canvas heat houser) back a long lane and then fighting ice and wind and temperatures near zero to fill those kerosene lamps and relight them under a freeze proof hog fountain.

The fountain might stay warm enough to not freeze but you would be frozen solid by the time you got back to the barn.

Miss the farm though.



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RJ-AZ

01-13-2005 16:20:39




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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to Allan in NE, 01-13-2005 11:49:26  
Made a LOT of money off of small square bales back in the 60's. But boy what a bunch of work. Remember having nightmares about them.
All time worst job was pulling well in the winter. We had a well on the ranch with a working barell and a pumpjack that we watered the main herd with and it went down two or three times in the winter. Once on Christmas day. Of course before that we had to chop ice every day out of the creek.

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37 chief

01-13-2005 16:02:57




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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to Allan in NE, 01-13-2005 11:49:26  
Putting up small square bales is good when you get 12.00 per bale. We stopped raising hay in the 60's. I would put up small bails all day long if I had the ground. stan



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Jeff Oliver

01-13-2005 17:49:27




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Where can you get $12 a bale for hay? I go a whole barn full I need to get rid of at that price:) Small bales really never bothered me until a small motorcycle wreck messed up my back so it is not nearly as much fun now. We still bale it and do rolls also but usually sell it in the field. Around here the biggest problem is finding kids with enough work ethic to haul it!



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37 chief

01-13-2005 22:39:27




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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to Jeff Oliver, 01-13-2005 17:49:27  
Southern Californioa is where you can get that price. The horse people will pay whatever the feed stores ask. The bales average 90-110 lbs.



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Mo Hay Baler

01-13-2005 16:19:21




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I just thought of a job I hate more than any other.In the spring when its still cold,when the big rains come and flood the creeks,has a tendency to wash logs right through water gaps.Now here we are in freezing water over the top of our new rubber boots,uh-oh,the right ones taking on water.We finally clear the debris,start pulling the wire gap out from under 2 feet of mud,and hope not to fall in the water when it comes loose or worse,Your boot sticks in the mud and foot comes out.Boy that sucks.Id rather bale,disk clods hard as rocks,or scoop crap all day.

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Mo Hay Baler

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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to Allan in NE, 01-13-2005 11:49:26  
I dont mind square bales at all.I have a good working baler,and I partnered up with a neighbor who has a New Holland Bale Wagon.He doesnt understand it,so I work on it in return for the use of it.The job I have always hated worst was trying to disk down clods that arent getting any smaller,in a cloud of dust on a 100 degree day with no cab.



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Jason(ma)

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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to Allan in NE, 01-13-2005 11:49:26  
Yup hay is nasty, I really hated mowing with a farmall M and the old sickle moco. 1st gear wide open get real old real fast. The top of the hay loft was bad but only lasted 30 min or so then you got a break. Mowing just goes on and on, these new disc mowers are just light years ahead.



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farmalljim10

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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to Allan in NE, 01-13-2005 11:49:26  
I am really surprized no mentioned chopping holes in the ice for the cattle to drink...Grew up in northeast Ohio on grade B dairy farm...Oh yes square bales inthe summer and chopping ice in the winter boy that was fun..I never could figure out why my brother went to the service as soon as he could? I just stayed home and had all the fun...You know I really do miss those times through...I guess im not to bright...but yes i do have character...

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Allan in NE

01-13-2005 15:39:59




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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to farmalljim10, 01-13-2005 15:22:26  
Jim,

Isn't that the darndest thing? I'd give all I own to be back in that misery along about 1949 or so. :>)

Allan



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01-13-2005 15:15:49




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Allan, Now my take on some of the nastiest jobs, baling hay was not bad, build strong back weak minds. haha. One of the worst things I have ever been involved in was cutting weeds out of beans walking 1/4-1/2 mile bean rows up and down, start at 7:00, beans were wet as, well were wet. After you do that for a few hours, you were be hot, pants muddy from rubbing the beans, you get all chaffed in the crotch, burn like the dickens. you go home for dinner, wash, put powder and clean jeans on and back at it again. Give me a baler and bale wagon any day over that. Then to top it all off, I worked with my uncle, he was an old timer, long legged, fast gate, and I was 10-11 years old and my chubby little legs had a hard time keeping up with him, and he didn't allow no stragglers. then you had the usuall run of the mills things, shredding stacks, running a rotary hoe, cultivating corn or beans, talk about boring work, scooping grain out of a grain bin with an aluminum scoop, had to move 150 bushel of soybeans for a guy one time from one wagon to another becaue he put it the wrong wagon, the one without an end gate to unload, spreading limestone on a windy day, that was a dirty job, but then again anything on an open platform tractor or a truck with windows down to get air was not clean. Man that was a lot of work, but bring me back the good old days, I really miss them times and I ain't that old yet either.

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JT I am surprised you did not have a bean buggy, LOL but you are right walking beans sucked I would always look back and see more weeds I had missed than pulled,



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01-14-2005 07:34:20




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Leland,
Bean Buggys came out about 3 years after I "retired" from that kind of fun and went and got a job at New Salem building trails and being a latrine orderly.
Jim



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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to JT, 01-13-2005 15:15:49  
Jt, I was just about to butt in on Allan when you came up with the ultimate nasty job ever. Boring, back breaking, tedious, never ending sometimes hot, all rolled into one. Walking beans. Down in SW Iowa we had some mile long rows along the Nishnabotna River and the gnats and skeeters would about eat you up. By the time you walked to one end, ate your lunch and took a little break, it was time to head the other way. Horrid. Now they just spray and have the most beautiful weed free fields you could imagine. Later, Harley

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Allan in NE

01-13-2005 15:37:04




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JT,

I sure never mined the rotary hoe or the cultivator, kind of liked it, in fact.

We never allowed the use of hoes during weeding 'cause sure as heck, some weeds would get cut off above ground and the darned things would then come back with a vengeance with those horizontal stringers. Always had to pull the weeds by hand and make sure ya get that darned root!

I forgot about the wet and damp crop from the dew too; now, I'm depressed all over again. :>)

Hated the shockin' of the oats too. My ankles are still sore and raw from that stubble; couldn’t afford boots back then.

Allan

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paul

01-13-2005 15:06:25




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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to Allan in NE, 01-13-2005 11:49:26  
And here I love stacking the hayrack behind the baler! Gets a little too hot & intense inside the barn packing away sometimes, but there are few jobs better than stacking the hayrack. Fresh air, good exersize, watch the crops & neighbors around you, steady pace & thinking thoughts through.

Unfortunately with a lack of help & my wife's rotating shifts, I had to get a round baler 2 years ago, only do about 1/2 the hay & straw with small squares any more.

--->Paul

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01-14-2005 05:15:43




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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to paul, 01-13-2005 15:06:25  
Paul, if you want to get back to it a little bit, I'll swap with ya.

Same problem here. I cut 15 acres into 4 different cuttings. open half the field, wife and I bale that up and unload it. then cut the rest of the half, that basically fits on the racks. That's all that will work after she gets home. Over the weekend can then get it in the barn. Half hour is all it takes for me to get to your place. Can easily swap labor back and forth.

AS far as staying with the small squares.... when one has all the equipment in good working order, why spend the 3-5K for a different baler so it goes up easier and then do all the work hand feeding off the rounds in the winter. Drop a few down from the mow and feed. No starting a tractor when it's -16 with wind like this morning. Just the savings on the tractor in cold weather is enough to justify doing the work in the summer.

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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to Greywolf, 01-14-2005 05:15:43  
Yea, I would be lost without the small squares on days like this when I'm not sure the tractors will start at -17. And feed a few critters in the barn now & then. I like a few 100 small squares around at least, and gererally get the barn comfortably full at 6000 bales. Hopefully don't empty it every year....

Then of course I got that bale basket a couple years ago, so no rack stacking any more - just all barn work! Oy. What we farmers go through. :)

--->Paul

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hiredman56

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I'm surprised nobody mentioned forking silage out of a trench silo. I do not miss it at all.



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Funny,I just finished feeding the beef cows, digging corn silage from a pile with my new $35 five-tine pitchfork. At least this one doesn't have the bent tines like in the old days. With a temperature of -15 and NW wind,that silage pile is the only warm spot on the farm. Temps below zero until Monday,with nights at -30. Last summer was so cool the corn didn't mature well,so we chopped and piled about 10 acres. Imay be as sick of it as you are by the time I get to the end of the stack.

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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to Allan in NE, 01-13-2005 11:49:26  
I dread cold barns in the winter. Tractor work is always fun, except when on a cabbed tractor with all the windows and both doors removed on a windy day spreading liquid manure, I learned to spread into the wind awful quick!. I don't care much for operating open station tractors on windy days anyway because of all the dirt blowing around and getting into my eyes.
I love all aspects of haying, from mowing it to running wagons back and forth unloading small squares, barely keeping up with the baler, amazing how wet with sweat a guy can get and how a bunch of chaff gets down your shirt and in you shoes, etc... I also love building fence in the spring. I do however dislike cleaning the parlor walls and taking rotten silage off the bunks and feeding calves, that stuff gets old fairly quickly.

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Les...fortunate

01-13-2005 14:36:33




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You ain"t had no fun if you ain"t put up LOOSE hay on the hottest day of summer and your job was to put it way back under the eaves bent over with a pitch fork in your hands. Makes them little square bales look pretty nice, it does.
Soon after that comes fixing fence in black fly season across a swamp.
Of course I haven"t done either one of those for nigh on to 50 years and I don"t miss either one of those tasks one little bit.

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Steve(OR)

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Les - Gotta disagree -this is how i've been doing for 4 years and I love it! Nothing like the smell of fresh cut grass hay on a sunny day, good exercise and satisfaction of getting a job done. It might make a difference though if I had more acreage and it took more than two partial days a year. Still want to get that old baler working.



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Les...fortunate

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"Two partial days" eh? Heck, anybody otta be able to do that standing on his head in a manure pile. ";^)
I notice you didn't say anything about fixing fence in black fly season. ";^o



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Allan - I'll take small squares any day over trying to castrate those 2 100lb hogs that someone missed when they were only a day or two old. If you haven't tried that, you don't know what you've missed !!!



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Farmall Don

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It all builds good character and I think you all can agree that this world needs more character like that. It built this nation and will keep it free. When you cant stand the chores, do what I do, and think of what the guys (and gals) had to go through to keep our freedom so we can get paid to do those thing at our own free will.

How's that for stir the pot?



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AMEN!



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Bill in Colo

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Allen

Their's very little I don't like, But plowing in April on open station is damm rite cold. Don't care much for small bales, didn't bother me much in my teens and twenties,but now at sixty I enjoy the big rounds the only work is the four gates to open and close. Cutting bakka and barning it is slave work( I spent 3 years with Ben Brown in W. Ky.of this site}



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Sloroll

01-13-2005 13:01:03




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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to Allan in NE, 01-13-2005 11:49:26  
Least favorite is frozen catle waterers. Allan.... Going against the grain here. I liked putting up hay and riding the rack. Now I didn't like being the guy stuck in the barn when it was just about full. Putting up hay was my times version of the thrashing run. Dad would hire a couple of my friends and we would work, sweat, laugh and Pi$$ each other off. Before I was in high school it was the only time I got soda too. Morning break and afternoon break we got a candy bar and a RC Cola. I liked feeding the hay to the cows too. They would be down below looking up and begging. I can still smell the sweet breath of those old herfords and the scent of the hayloft. That is where you'd find the kittens too. They were a pleasant surprise every once in awhile. When the bales got big the barn went to storage and it's magic has since faded.

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dhermesc

01-13-2005 13:19:07




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One thing I hated much more then putting up hay in the summer, working cattle, always seemed to be doing it on a day that the mud was up to your arse. Cutting, dehorning, shots, preg check, just a nasty job all the way around.

One other crappy job was loading hay out on semis in the winter. We loaded small squares onto cattle trailers that had dropped their loads off at IBP. The **** would still be frozen to the floor (or worse, wet & slick) and the bales had to carried the lenght of the trailer while bent over so's to not hit your head. To cold to strip off coveralls so you sweated in your heavy clothes. It also seemed like it was always Sunday morning so's I was usually nursing a pounding head at the same time.

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Allan in NE

01-13-2005 13:08:42




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Now Bill,

I'm gonna come right out and say it. It is awfully hard to hold a conversation with you because you simply use too darned much logic.

How fair is that anyway? :>)

Nice turn of the phrase, ol' Bud,

Allan



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Sloroll

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That was back when each cow over three years old had a name, under two a number and younger had some kind a look in her eye that meant you would keep or cull. you said grace before you ate too because you knew dinner personaly. Round bales are faster by far but...most things that last generally don't happen quickly. If farming was based on logic, heck we would have all gotten paying jobs long ago! As always thanks for the trip back Allan! :? ) Bill

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Gotta agree on the sewer thing, pulling a submersible pump out of the well when the wind chill is -20 ranks right up there also. Never did mind too much plowing in March, worse than plowing is pulling a stalk shredder on a cabless tractor with the wind in the wrong direction. Talk about needing a shower at the end of the day!



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aFORDable

01-13-2005 12:57:17




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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to Allan in NE, 01-13-2005 11:49:26  
Allan, Nah, I'd go with cutting tobacco in August. I've put up square bales and it can be tough in those old barn lofts but tobacco cutting is worse. It is soooo bad, it builds character!



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FH

01-13-2005 13:14:32




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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to aFORDable, 01-13-2005 12:57:17  
Yep, cuttin' is BAD enough but the housin' gets old really quick too. Ever had a pack of monkeys attack about 2PM, 130 sticks into a 220+ row?(Heat exhaustion usually brings out the 'mirages')!



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aFORDable

01-13-2005 14:12:58




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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to FH, 01-13-2005 13:14:32  
FH, I thought our farm was the only one that had those darn monkies running around! Glad to hear they exist in other places. Ever notice how they turn to gorillas after about 8 - 9 hours on one of those humid days? Maybe Scopes was a tobacco farmer! He might have really been on to something. :)



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Yessir!

01-13-2005 17:33:36




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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to aFORDable, 01-13-2005 14:12:58  
Extremely FAT gorillas with a really bad smell....or maybe that was me? No matter how bad it got, it usually affected everybody about the same, young and old. After the 'buyout', it just won't be the same. Reckon Scopes ever hit a lick at a snake his whole life?



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Allan in NE

01-13-2005 13:11:46




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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to aFORDable, 01-13-2005 12:57:17  
Oh no!

Not another one of those "character building" jobs! Whenever I hear that term, I run for cover. :>)

Had a friend while I was in the Navy who was from Springview, TN and he was always talkin' about the "bakker". Heck of a stand-tall guy, he was.

Allan



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caseyc

01-13-2005 12:54:28




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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to Allan in NE, 01-13-2005 11:49:26  
well i don't know bout you allen but i love small square bales!!!! put up about 5000 this last summer just my wife and i. i did all the cutting and raking, she drove and i did all the stacking, we both hauled wagons, and then she set the bales on the elevator and i stacked in the mow. yes it is alot of work but i really enjoy it and it keeps us in shape!!!!

casey



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Allan in NE

01-13-2005 13:03:42




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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to caseyc, 01-13-2005 12:54:28  
Yeah, but Casey,

Aren't you the guy with that ugly black stripe 766?

LOL!

Allan



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caseyc

01-13-2005 13:19:09




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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to Allan in NE, 01-13-2005 13:03:42  
i haven't seen any donations yet to make it pretty!!!!



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R. John Johnson

01-13-2005 12:43:49




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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to Allan in NE, 01-13-2005 11:49:26  
Consider it stirred. I vote for the round bale, but it all depends on what you are doing with the hay. If you are selling it to horse people you will be well rewarded for the extra effort. I raise cattle, 130 cow calf pairs. We used the old farmhand, like you posted a few days ago, until round balers came along in the late 70's. Dad swore if he had to use square bales he would quit. That was re-inforced one year in the 70's when we had all our hay rained out. Dad bought a bunch of square bales. Feeding it to the 60 odd cows he had then was chore enough, never mind the thought of putting hay up that way.

Now if I had to vote for the job I hate the most on my farm it would be fencing in the lake each spring. The ice takes the fences out every year and they need to be put back in. Its slow, hard work and you have to do it again every year.

Allen, your post a whike back about rebuilding the family farm sure struck a nerve in me. If you are interested my e-mail is open and I will tell you my story.

John

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Mike (WA)

01-13-2005 12:26:55




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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to Allan in NE, 01-13-2005 11:49:26  
Well, let's see why I still use small squares. . . Feeding about 10 horses from mid-December til spring (have enough pasture to last until December). Have a 7 stall barn, with a hay loft over the center alley, and feeders to drop hay into along the side. I put up (or buy) 500 bales a year, which fills the loft. We use a loft, because I can feed in 5 minutes in the morning before work, and the Mrs. can feed, water, grain, etc. at night without bucking bales- you just cut the twines where they lay and drop into feeders. There isn't any part of round bale feeding that we could do- couldn't store them, couldn't feed without hauling and unrollilng outside in the mud, couldn't get them into the loft, etc. Also, in our country, people tend to bale rounds a little on the moist side, which works OK for cattle, but is death on horses- we need it bone dry. As long as there are folks like us, there will be guys out putting up little squares (re re-baling dry rounds into squares during the winter to sell). All that being said, if I ever went back into cattle, I'd have a round baler in a heartbeat.

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Allan in NE

01-13-2005 12:35:08




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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to Mike (WA), 01-13-2005 12:26:55  
Hi Buddy!

Hey! Can ya tell that I'm bored on a cold January day? :>)

Allan



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Walter Squires

01-13-2005 12:09:57




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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to Allan in NE, 01-13-2005 11:49:26  
Aint you never heard of a New Holland bale wagon.
Kinda makes sense to put up small squares at $110 per ton compared to big roundes at $40 per ton, besides that try to sell a 1800 pound round bale to a horse person trying to handle it with a 8N Ford, kinda hard to haul a large round in the back of there new $50,000 SUV also.



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Allan in NE

01-13-2005 12:32:21




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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to Walter Squires, 01-13-2005 12:09:57  
Whew!

Thanks Walter. Thought I was gonna be 'shuned' there for a minute. LOL!

Naw, I don't deal with the horsey people. I think they are totally nuts (by the way, my wife is part of this crowd too). :>)

So, if I'm to understand you, just because all these wannabe cowboys 'taint got sense enough to come in outta the rain, a guy should go thru all that agony puttin' up hay in square bales? Naw. :>)

Allan

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Kelly C

01-13-2005 15:37:57




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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to Allan in NE, 01-13-2005 12:32:21  
Now now Allen. Dont disrespect a paying customer.
Heck if they want fryed Onions on the hay I will do it.
Besides when you are dealing with low volume sales. I do about 50 acres. You make way more per ton of hay going squares.
I just got prepaid for 700 bales for next year!!!!
I like horsey people.



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Allan in NE

01-13-2005 15:43:19




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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to Kelly C, 01-13-2005 15:37:57  
Hey Kelly!

Yeah, I kinda like 'em too, but I sure don't want 'em to know it. :>)

But, I'll never understand why they wanna pour all that money down those ol' hayburners. :>)

Allan



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Walter Squires

01-13-2005 12:45:18




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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to Allan in NE, 01-13-2005 12:32:21  
Sure dont mind taking there money for those little square bales, whats really funny is that they only want a 40 to 50 pound bale and pay the same as for a regular bale.
Oh and by the way some of those little horsey girls look pretty cute in there tight jeans and boots, I did say some.
By the way it's colder than a witches t!t her in Springfield, MO today, weatherman said it's going to 10 above Sunday night, Burrrrr rrrr.

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Rockin' Farmer

01-13-2005 13:09:13




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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to Walter Squires, 01-13-2005 12:45:18  
"weatherman said it's going to 10 above Sunday night, Burrrrr rrrr."

Only supposed to get up to 8 above for a HIGH here in SE Nebr. Fri!
Double Burrrrr rrrrr.

Rockin' Farmer



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Allan in NE

01-13-2005 13:14:32




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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to Rockin' Farmer, 01-13-2005 13:09:13  
Yep,

I'm clear at the opposite corner from you and it is the same way here.

Local propane lass called and wanted to make sure everyone out in this area had enough heating fuel for the next few days. Hmmmmm , must be January again. :>)

Allan



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Jerry Cent. Mi.

01-13-2005 16:29:20




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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to Allan in NE, 01-13-2005 13:14:32  
When we got a square bailer I thought I went to heaven. It beat the heck out of handling the hay as it come up the hayloader. Toward the end of the day the team would get hungary and they would speed up and really send the hay up the loader. Then off to the barn and put the hay in the mow with the slings. Not fond memories.



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steveormary

01-13-2005 22:35:13




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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to Jerry Cent. Mi., 01-13-2005 16:29:20  
Dont really know which job was worst. I never did like milking cows. I liked the tractor work.What I didnt like was Dad hollering all the time. Guess that is why the day I got out of high school I left the farm for awhile. Worked construction,tried college,joined the Navy.

Only worked small sqs one summer. 1956. Did mowing and raking and stacked bales. I didnt have to run the baler. The last 10 years on the farm I traded work with a neighbor so I could use his swather. He did the round bales at about 1100#. Small baled 4th cutting and sold that in the field.

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Robbie6

01-14-2005 08:02:10




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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to steveormary, 01-13-2005 22:35:13  
Cleaning out the hen house on a hot day, grinding 300 bushels of barley and oats with an old hammermill on a cold day, getting volunteered to help unload 40 ton of frozen stoker coal from a wooden boxcar with 4" grain auger, making a nice stack of sweet smelling hay in the meadow only to have the "Old Man" pull it apart with the WD9 and Farmhand 'cause it wasn't perfect. Heck, making small square bales was like having a holiday. Took me 40 years away get back into square baling last year, I sure do love it!
Robbie

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steveormary

01-14-2005 18:52:47




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 Re: Time to Stir The Pot in reply to Robbie6, 01-14-2005 08:02:10  
JoeK.

Done that and always at the furthest end of the farm. But,if you plant them deeper they will grow bigger.

steveormary



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