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Allan in NE

01-11-2005 16:55:30




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Hi,

I put this picture over on the Farmall board but wanted to share it here too. This is the gizmo we used to put up hay with in Western NE. Some still do down in the sandhills.

Allan

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Sand Flat Bob

01-12-2005 16:46:34




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 Re: Hay Stakin' Tools in reply to Allan in NE, 01-11-2005 16:55:30  
This was how we put up hay when I was young up in western Kansas. There is a 1953 88 oliver set up with the loader and buckrake just 4 miles from my farm. It was owned by a friend of mine. He was just starting to restore it when cancer got him. The oliver and WD-45 Allis he had still are setting on his farm. His twin sons decided to keep them.



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SuperCmore

01-12-2005 08:04:16




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 Re: Hay Stakin' Tools in reply to Allan in NE, 01-11-2005 16:55:30  
Allen, being from Missouri, I'm not familiar with this "hay stacking" deal. Did you mow and windrow the hay and then just drive along the windrow till you had a load and then go put it somewhere in the field? Why not use small, round baler?? Guess you don't get much rain in Western Nebraska, but in NE Missouri, if you stacked loose hay, you'd have nothing but a big pile of manure by the next spring. How did you feed from the stack? With the same stacker?? Just curious and thanks for the pic. Cmore

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Eldon (WA)

01-12-2005 22:47:45




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 Re: Hay Stakin' Tools in reply to SuperCmore, 01-12-2005 08:04:16  
We mowed and raked the hay....a lot of people used huge dump rakes because the hay was so thin. Then we had a JD B set up with a sweep (hay basket) on the front to buck up the hay in bunches and push it to an area where a stack was made. The sweep only tilted back....no need to lift up. The B had a high speed reverse, so it made for quick trips back to get another buck. You hardly ever turned the tractor around. Then a tractor with FarmHand (or similar) loader with hay basket was used to stack the hay in a big pile. In the fall, the stacks would have settled quite a bit and a hay sled was used to move them into a feed yard. These sleds were made of long rails with roller chains running on top of them. The sled was tilted and the chains helped pull the stack on as the tractor pushed the sled under the stack. Stack was hauled to feed yard and the chains reversed direction and slid the stack off. Earlier sleds had only a big cable on a winch. The cable had to be wrapped around the stack to pull it on the sled.
When feeding the stacked hay, the hay basket on the loader was replaced with a bucket or manure fork and an additional grapple fork on top. This setup could rip the hay out of the stack. A lot of the hay was ground up using a huge tub- like grinder which made it more palatable for the livestock. We loaded this in feeder or mixer wagons to feed...a lot of it got mixed with sileage for a better feed ration.

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Bud Sather

01-12-2005 07:39:27




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 Re: Hay Stakin' Tools in reply to Allan in NE, 01-11-2005 16:55:30  
I can remember those. Helped my Uncle Bill put up hay in the middle 60's. I run the buck rake and he did the stacking with a ford tractor either a 8n or 2n I'm not sure. I know we had to put a chunk of rail road iron on the right side of the loader over the rear axle of the tractor to offset the weight of the hydraulics on the left side. Once you start up with a load of hay you never turned the steering wheel or the darn thing would tip over. Dangerous to say the least but we put up a lot of hay that way for years.
As a kid it was sure fun to run the buck rake.
Bud

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R. John Johnson

01-11-2005 19:41:27




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 Re: Hay Stakin' Tools in reply to Allan in NE, 01-11-2005 16:55:30  
That brings back memories! When I was a kid everyone up here used them to stack hay for beef cows. They abruptly disappeared in the late 70's when round balers came to the area. One guy near here who has just a few cows still uses one to stack hay. No cost on twine or round baler headaches.

My uncle fed with one on a W6 one winter. With no power steering it was a beast to steer. He claimed he could have wrestled any grizzly bear by that spring.

John

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RJ-AZ

01-11-2005 17:43:10




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 Re: Hay Stakin' Tools in reply to Allan in NE, 01-11-2005 16:55:30  
I may have said it before but we had the older model F11 on a MH44D and in one months time stacked 30,000 bales. Most of them at .05 per bale. Did some real big heavy ones for .07ea. Dad and I could average 2,000 per day stacking to the edge of the field. Record best day was 3,200, the hay was so dang thick and the old guy had the smallest NH baler there was. He only made 65# bales cause he had to handle them in the winter.
This was on Owl Creek near Lodge Grass Montana back in 1963.

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Delbert

01-11-2005 17:25:20




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 Re: Hay Stakin' Tools in reply to Allan in NE, 01-11-2005 16:55:30  
Used to have one of those on a h worked great. That looks like a super h. Nice to see those kind of things. There was lots of them in eastern Kansas. Thanks Allan.



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Mike Burdick

01-11-2005 17:41:38




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 Re: Hay Stakin' Tools in reply to Delbert, 01-11-2005 17:25:20  
Allan in NE,

Thanks for posting the picture. I made a log splitter using the pump on one of those things.

I always enjoyed going thru those "bone" piles that almost every farmer and rancher has - especially in the corn belt. I guess now with ebay those too will disappear.

Hey…maybe some of you might post some pictures of the “scap” heap on your place. How about it?



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Allan in NE

01-11-2005 17:27:53




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 Re: Hay Stakin' Tools in reply to Delbert, 01-11-2005 17:25:20  
Hi Delbert,

Yeah, all it took was about one cutting of small square bales to make a guy decide that there's just gotta be an easier way. :>)

Allan



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steveormary

01-11-2005 19:58:29




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 Re: Hay Stakin' Tools in reply to Allan in NE, 01-11-2005 17:27:53  
Allan;

The first F-10 we had was mounted on a TE-20 Ferguson. Sorry,no pics.Then the TO-30. From there we went to a Cockshutt 30 and then to an M farmall. Wore the loaders out and the Cockshutt was pretty well worn when we parked it. No power steering and except for the Cockshutt no lpto.

A friend restored the Cockshutt and has shown it at Stuhr museum.

BA(before Allan)we used an overshot stacker and a team of horses and a hay sweep on an F-12.

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Steve(OR)

01-13-2005 16:33:48




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 Re: Hay Stakin' Tools in reply to steveormary, 01-11-2005 19:58:29  
What's a hay sweep?



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Allan in NE

01-11-2005 20:13:47




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 Re: Hay Stakin' Tools in reply to steveormary, 01-11-2005 19:58:29  
Watched my dad trade off the last team on a '50 or '51 M. That was a very sad time around our house.

Remember the overshots, the ground drive mowers and the dump rakes; I remember the hanes, the collars, the tugs & those double trees very well. I think I could harness a team to this day (maybe).

Darn! I'm gettin' old! :>(

Allan



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steveormary

01-11-2005 20:39:37




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 Re: Hay Stakin' Tools in reply to Allan in NE, 01-11-2005 20:13:47  
Allan

OK Allan,now put the cream separator together.

Dad sold a team of horses and bought an F-12 and about the time I got old enuf to learn horses he sold the other team and bought the TE-20 new. So I missed out on horses.

steveormary



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