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ETD66SS

01-11-2005 05:54:04




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I posted about my 60 acres of land yesterday, and the type of machine I was looking for.

I think after all the advice from you guys, co-workers, and my father. I'm going to start looking for a loader/backhoe.

Now I may not be able to do all the logging, and dig my pond with it. However, because I can only afford one piece of equipment. I think a newer (early to mid 80's) Case or Deere backhoe is what I want.

I want a 4WD loader backhoe, and I'm willing to wait a few more months to save up the $$$ to get one.

I would like your suggestions on what would be the best 4WD loader backhoe in the $10,000-$15,000 range??? Or am I realistically looking at $20,000?

I've been looking at the CASE 580 4WD series'

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leland

01-11-2005 13:15:20




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 Re: Thanks for all the good advice in reply to ETD66SS, 01-11-2005 05:54:04  
Look for a 933 or 955 cat track loader you can add a hoe and still do quite a bit of heavy work to boot, a back hoe won't last that long if doing a lot of heavy rugged work and like others have said parts can eat you alive. But if you find a case here is a salvage yard that has quite a bit of cases for parts 1-800-626-6046



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Ryan

01-11-2005 10:09:08




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 Re: Thanks for all the good advice in reply to ETD66SS, 01-11-2005 05:54:04  
My advice to you being a 580 super E owner that you check the front end very, very carefully. We spent over 800.00 on our front end and then the universal went out, now it is a 2 wd. The front end peices are made in Italy on a case, and are very expensive for what they are. I would ask around a see if the deere would be any cheaper to work on? Just be forewarned you can spend alot of money on one, especially in the price range you are considering.

Ryan

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mud

01-11-2005 08:55:03




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 Re: Thanks for all the good advice in reply to ETD66SS, 01-11-2005 05:54:04  
say, i read your earlier post. i bought an older case 450 to clear around our place. it was tired when i brought it to the farm. paid 5000 for it. used it on weekends part time for 8 1/2 years. threw a rod. i'll rebuild it and maybe get another 10 years out of it before i throw a rod! lol! it has cleared new ground, repaired a dam, cleared fence rows, and such.

just a thought, and good luck in your work at your place.
mud

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ben uk

01-11-2005 08:49:59




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 Re: Thanks for all the good advice in reply to ETD66SS, 01-11-2005 05:54:04  
I like the MF 50EX. Dont know how available they are over your side of the pond? Over here (UK) i saw a nice one go for £3500. God i wish id had the money! Seem reliable, hard to break, and of course it says "MAssey Ferguson" on the side!



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LK

01-11-2005 07:26:30




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 Re: Thanks for all the good advice in reply to ETD66SS, 01-11-2005 05:54:04  
I felt a need for a backhoe a few years back. Through an ad in a local advertiser mag, I found a fellow that had a couple Case 580B machines. I ended up buying 2 machines in nice restored/rebuilt/repainted condition for $20k. The idea was that my brother was going to buy one of them- I ended up selling his instead.

These are 2wd machines and are very heavy. For my needs, they are fine but I think they are heavier and not as strong as the newer backhoes.

The one that I sold had the extendahoe and the 4-in1 bucket. These features are nice, but added around a ton to the weight. The result was that the machine was pretty bad in the mud. I once got it stuck at a neighbors, and couldn't pull myself out. It just didn't have the strength. I had to bring the 2nd machine over to yank it out!

The 580B that I am keeping has the simple bucket and the regular hoe- still it weighs 13k lbs. However, it is a bit more nimble and more able to get itself out of trouble.

I have heard that starting with the 580C series, the machine was designed as a backhoe from the ground up. On the 580B's, they started with a tractor and added to it to make a backhoe. Still, they are very capable machines, and I wouldn't be without one at this point!

The point of all this rambling is that you can buy a credible backhoe for $10k- I did. However, to get a 4wd backhoe, I think you will likely be more like 15k. And I like having the capability of a full-size machine.

Try contacting a heavy equipment contractor. I heard of one locally that sells his machines once they get 5000 hrs on them.

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Sloroll

01-11-2005 06:16:27




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 Re: Thanks for all the good advice in reply to ETD66SS, 01-11-2005 05:54:04  
Good luck to you. Have you checked out the Dozer Crawler Backhoe site? They may be able to help you fine tune your plan. Just click the link below. These are a bunch of great guys here and the advise is almost always genuinely heart felt. Glad to have you.



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ETD66SS

01-11-2005 06:20:44




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 Re: Thanks for all the good advice in reply to Sloroll, 01-11-2005 06:16:27  
Yes, I did, and seann advized me to get a big old 10 ton crawler loader, lol.

I've had a lot of differing advice given to me on these boards, which is both good and confusing at the same time...

I still have more thinking to do, but I'll just keep asking questions if you guys don't mind...

BTW, I've spent over $35k on my Chevelle SS396 so far, I'm starting to wish I had that $$$ back to buy a nice $40k crawler, lol

But I'm too far into the Chevelle project to stop now, it's nearly completed.

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joe e-tx

01-11-2005 10:14:27




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 Re: Thanks for all the good advice in reply to ETD66SS, 01-11-2005 06:20:44  
chevelle parts-try reds auto parts he knows pre 72 chevelles,like most here know tractors 903/842/3141. hope this might help joe



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RustyFarmall

01-11-2005 06:49:05




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 Re: Thanks for all the good advice in reply to ETD66SS, 01-11-2005 06:20:44  
Hey, look at it this way, IF you could buy a brand new equilivant of the SS 396 today, I bet the price would be over $35,000, and then you would still have nothing more than a pile of plastic and troublesome electronics.



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Sloroll

01-11-2005 06:26:59




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 Re: Thanks for all the good advice in reply to ETD66SS, 01-11-2005 06:20:44  
Advise is like belly buttons :? ) It boiles down to it is your money and you will decide how to spend it. It is easy to have money fly away when fixing up cars. I've done a couple and vowed to buy someone elses pollished and finished bankrupcy if ever I get the urge again. That is a sweet looking machine and I'd sure like to have that shop too!



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ETD66SS

01-11-2005 06:33:01




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 Re: Thanks for all the good advice in reply to Sloroll, 01-11-2005 06:26:59  
I did all the work on the car except the paint & body.

That shop is not mine, that's the bodymans shop...

The paint & body cost me $10,000...

This was my first restoration. Once I get a shop of my own built someday, the next car I do, I will do all the work myself.

This was the first time I ever paid anyone that amount of money to do work for me, I don't plan on ever going that route with anything ever again TBH...

That's why I'm bound & determined to work my land by myself, with my own machine(s)...

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