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Tire Chain question for Allen and the group

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Bob4knee

01-09-2005 19:41:03




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Hi

I gave up on getting the auction chains to fit the Farmall M. They weren't quite wide enough to make me comfortable. I ordered a new $et from tirechains.com, and put them on today (It's 25 F today, figured I'd get them on before it gets cold).

I'm not real happy with how tight I'm getting them, but I've used up all the extra chain (any tighter I'll be hooking inside the first cross chain). The tires are 15.5-38s, I'm guessing that they don't make a different size for every tire, and mine is at the small side of the range?

If I hook them outside the first cross chain, I can make them tight enough that they won't fall off (by stretching pulling the slop to the outside with chain stretchers and tarp straps). Then they sound and feel looser than I'd expect (but I know nothing about tractor chains, on a car/truck they'd be way too loose). I can pull out on the side chain and get my whole hand inside (between side and tire) anywhere I try--isn't that too loose? They sound much looser than car chains, but I'm closer to them and I guess (do to tread design) they need to be a little looser to work right. Am I way off base?

If I were to hook inside of the cross chain (these are the duo-grip, with a square on the tread and 4 corner chains going to the side chains--thissquare is also to the outside, but still on the tread as installed now), I guess I could just start to wrap them around again and hook the extra, but I expected with "custom" chains to not have to do this.

Also, what's the best way to put them on? I run over the end of the chain, the throw the rest over the tire and hook it. Easy on a car/truck, lots of chain to hunch over with a tractor. Throw it up, pin it to the tire with my chest, grab another handful and throw it higher. On a warm day with brand new chains, no problem. With the old chains on a cold day I'd get covered with rust and colder. Is this the best way? No big deal really, it's not that hard and I only figure to do it once a year, but if there's a better (and/or easier) way I'd be glad to hear it.

Are there other options to lapping the cross-chain over? Like use a couple of temporary links to shorten the side chain between 2-3 of the cross links around the tire (same place on both sides)? any other wisdom?

I like the way these fit much better than the auction chains. I already put time and money into making the auction chains long enough before I chickened out on the width. They were barely as wide as the tread, so (If I cut all of the tarp straps) I could probably work them off of the tire w/out unlatching the side chains. I figured with no fenders I didn't want them flying off.

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Ultradog MN

01-10-2005 17:46:45




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 Re: Tire Chain question for Allen and the group in reply to Bob4knee, 01-09-2005 19:41:03  
Bob,
I'm on my 3rd year with those Duo Grips from tirechains.com. I haven't lost one yet. Mine are smaller - 11.2x28 It takes me about 30 - 40 minutes per tire - one tire jacked up off the ground at a time.
Lift up the chain to about 2:00 position, hook the cross links to the lugs on the tire and then roll the rest over the top.
I like working at it. Got an extra link in the side chains this year. Use a tool or a stick to move them around. I don't tie mine on.
This year I joined the side chain tails together on the top of the tire with a small shackle. Don't know why. Except the extra link allowed me to. And it looks better than wireing them to themselves.
Good luck
Jerry

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WiCraig

01-10-2005 15:44:02




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 Re: Tire Chain question for Allen and the group in reply to Bob4knee, 01-09-2005 19:41:03  
I agree with Lyle on this one. Jack the trator up. I let out all the air as well. Half of my chains were loose, half tight. With big lugged tires, you don't want all the chains tight. No good. As I have no pavement on my place, I leave mine on all year. Putting on chains correctly takes way toooo much time. By the way, mine chains would rise a good 2 inches off the tires at 15 mph. Good luck. Craig

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RWK in WI

01-10-2005 07:18:26




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 Re: Tire Chain question for Allen and the group in reply to Bob4knee, 01-09-2005 19:41:03  
I have duro-grips on two tractors. On one I latch the side chains inside the first half of the first cross chain and then use a "double ended heavy dog chain snap" to fasten the outter side of that 1st cross chain to the tightened side link. ( I also use another to hold the end of the side chain out of the way. ) I have also seen chain dealers sell a snap link for this purpose. I have one and the package is listed as "Baron Spring Hook C - 3450 - 5/16" " You should be able to get them at a farm supply store - Fleet Farm here in Wisconsin. I hope this helps you.

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Bob4knee

01-10-2005 20:04:31




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 Re: Tire Chain question for Allen and the group in reply to RWK in WI, 01-10-2005 07:18:26  
Thanks RWK. I think that's what I'll do. I looked at it again this morning (before leaving for the "real job"), and overlapping them seems to be the best option.

Thanks all for the advice on installing them also. I'll try jacking it up and spinning the tire next time--I'll let you know which was easier.

Thanks again,

Bob



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Lyle

01-10-2005 04:38:12




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 Re: Tire Chain question for Allen and the group in reply to Bob4knee, 01-09-2005 19:41:03  
Jack the tractor up and rotate the tire is the way that works best for me. Loose chains work better. Just use some wire to hold the loose ends down. Don't use your road gear and you will be fine with loose chains.



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Allan in NE

01-10-2005 03:37:12




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 Re: Tire Chain question for Allen and the group in reply to Bob4knee, 01-09-2005 19:41:03  
Hi Bob,

Heck, I didn't know there was a right or wrong way to put the dudes on. :>)

I just 'back-lapped' the darned things and cinched 'em down. I think one size probably fits 3 or 4 tire sizes.

I know one thing, livin' up in these hills sure made a believer outta me. Between the live hydraulics, power steering, the chains and calcium chloride, it made an absolute little "badger" outta this old tractor! It goes like a darned mountain goat. :>)

I’ve got a neighbor over across the west ridge who just leaves his chains on year around.

Allan

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paul

01-09-2005 22:44:16




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 Re: Tire Chain question for Allen and the group in reply to Bob4knee, 01-09-2005 19:41:03  
Been a lot of years since I used tire chains, but dad ran some on 2 of the tractors back in the day.

I have no idea what is right, but ours were always loose & sloppy, so the chain would lay down on the ice first and then the tire would drive on the chain. Tight was not a good idea on a tractor with the deep lugs - the chain would just settle in the lugs & be pointless.

--->Paul



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Dug

01-09-2005 21:03:36




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 Re: Tire Chain question for Allen and the group in reply to Bob4knee, 01-09-2005 19:41:03  
Hi Bob,

Seems like you could cut the first cross chain off and solve your problem. However, I am anxious to hear advice from others.

As for putting the chains on, you have two choices, drive over like you did or jack it up.

Dug



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Butcher

01-09-2005 20:42:37




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 Re: Tire Chain question for Allen and the group in reply to Bob4knee, 01-09-2005 19:41:03  
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I ran chains on this tractor for 20 years. I bought themused and they were way to big. I always used just the nylon rope and tightend it 1 a year. Never had any problems. If you are useing new chains they are going to get loose more and more as you drive. Just keep tightening until you are happy.

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