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Small acreage profitability

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MeAnthony

01-02-2005 04:07:25




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I currently have about 6 acres available here at home, which I keep mowed. Also, approx. 16 acres close by. Location is south central Michigan. I'm wondering how to best put this ground to use, maybe something unique, since I don't have a large operation. Maybe catnip? I have an M and sickle-bar mower, so cutting without destroying usable parts of the plant is no problem. I know from internet research that catnip is grown in other areas, but I don't know how it would do here. Any suggestions or other ideas/input from y'all is tremendously appreciated. Thanks much, and y'all have a great day!

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Teddy (punchie)

01-03-2005 03:33:56




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 Re: Small acreage profitability in reply to MeAnthony, 01-02-2005 04:07:25  
I would say go slow. If your thinking of catnip, plant a small area, maybe a couple small areas. See what happens and if there are any pests(from plants that compete to animals, deer or maybe the cats may come and play in it and knock it all down). Strawberries money yes allot to know and huge amount of work. Rasberries easyer hi start up. Bule burrries Higher start up and your would have to have a market. Christmas tree?? Other garden crops if there's a market for it. Pests are My biggest trouble here western PA from coons, turkeys, deer if I whant sweetcorn I have to fence it in with 3 stranes of wire, thinner the better, harder for them to see, and puts the fear of God in them. WHERE DID THAT COME FROM, if they get scared they will not be back. If they can see it and jump dig or go around, there not going to touch it and get nailed. Hay is my best money maker, I do about, one average 200-300 per acre profit. It handle too much rain or a drought, you always get a harvest, maybe not what you would like but always something. Make sure you have a place to store your equipment and your harvest. Learn as much as you can, and try a small 1/4 spot and grow from there.

Good Luck and Have Fun !! P.S.

Yes if you hate working ground or farming stay out of it.

Better look at as a hobby !!

Teddy

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Leland

01-02-2005 18:19:25




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 Re: Small acreage profitability in reply to MeAnthony, 01-02-2005 04:07:25  
If you have plenty of wildlife just leave it alone and put a ad in a detroit news paper and lease the hunting rights, you would be surprised what some poeple will pay to blast bambie or yogi.



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Charlie M

01-02-2005 15:56:25




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 Re: Small acreage profitability in reply to MeAnthony, 01-02-2005 04:07:25  
If you have a way to irrigate, small fruit such as strawberries or raspberries can be worth a lot of money. It takes some effort to plant them but if you let people pick their own there is no labor for harvesting. If no one close to you is doing the same thing you would have a lot of customers.



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Hal/WA

01-02-2005 17:21:19




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 Re: Small acreage profitability in reply to Charlie M, 01-02-2005 15:56:25  
Strawberries and raspberries can be good crops for U-pick operations if there are enough people nearby that would be interested in coming to your property to pick the crops. But both crops require a bunch of hand work to get going and keep going, and you absolutely have to be there during the harvest seasons. Also you want to check with your insurance carrier to make sure you are covered should any of your customers get injured while on your property. You may need a special policy.

And then there is the problem of varments. Some friends of mine did both strawberries and raspberries near Spokane, but I don't think they ever made a profit because the multitude of deer in the area just wouldn't let the crops mature. And with the strawberries, after the second year, some kind of fungus got into them and destroyed about half of the plants. They finally just plowed everything under last Spring and planted timothy.

My cousin lives in Western Montana and has made his living for about 15 years raising hydroponic tomatoes in several large greenhouses. It is a full time job during the season from March through mid November depending on the weather outside. He has done OK, not got rich, by having lots of contracts with food stores all over Western Montana. His operation uses a wood fired boiler for heat and he only plants a couple of varieties of tomatoes that happen to do well in greenhouses and sell well. His tomatoes cost a lot more than the usual supermarket tomatoes, but they taste a lot better, since they really are vine ripened. He can sell almost everything he grows. But he works very hard at it all the time--it is not easy money. And he worries all the time about plant diseases.

I wish there was something that a fairly small acreage owner could plant and make a decent profit. So many areas of 5 to 40 acre tracts end up unused and just going to weeds. One local area was a large old family farm broken up into 10's and 20's. There are about 5 houses that have been built over the last few years, but the covenant agreed to by all the buyers made sure that each parcel remains unfenced and all are farmed by a nearby farmer. It looks good....little islands of nice buildings surrounded by well cared for wheatland. I don't know what the farmer has to pay to farm the various parcels, but it must be OK for him because he continues to farm them.

I wish there was a good solution. I would be satisfied to just pay the taxes, which my acreage has never done. Good luck!

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Kaya

01-02-2005 15:19:29




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 Re: Small acreage profitability in reply to MeAnthony, 01-02-2005 04:07:25  
You make my cat sooooo o happy!



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Mark Westphal

01-02-2005 10:48:18




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 Re: Small acreage profitability in reply to MeAnthony, 01-02-2005 04:07:25  
The answer depends on how much time you have on your hands and where your passions(interests) lie.
If you have a passion for something you will be energized and not drained by accomplishing your task, whether you are weeding, mowing, harvesting, etc.
If you do not have time you will be frustrated because you will not be able to get done what is needed.
I have 16 acres behind my house and on it have 2 acres for summer sweet corn that we sell to local grocers and wholesalers as well as the kids selling it on the corner.
I also have 2 acres dedicated to a small (3000 tree) tree farm. It takes time to get it started and keep it weed free but you would not have to water your farm like I do out in the west. The remainder is used to produce high quality horse grass/alfalfa mix.
I really enjoy doing these things and it adds to my quality of life but if I did these for a living I think that would be different.

Hope this helps

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kyhayman

01-02-2005 09:40:20




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 Re: Small acreage profitability in reply to MeAnthony, 01-02-2005 04:07:25  
LOts of good suggestions here, I especially like ErrinOH'es ideas. One good place to state is to look at the MSU Extension budgets, see which crops have the highest net returns per acre. Do a resource inventory, see what your most limiting resources are (time, money, whatever) then begin to plan accordingly. The days of someone going out and making it farming without being a business and resource manager are long gone (if it ever was that way).

Some ideas that come to mind off the top of my head are asparagus, tomatoes, blueberries, etc. All are either high cost up front or high labor (or both). You cant make it small scale on bulk commodoty crops or livestock, has to be something 'special'. Catnip is a great idea. The key is going to be marketing and packaging it. Internet is great, lets you marke tto the world at your finger tips. Also, be sure and not to forget non-program crop Federal Crop Insurance. I'd say to properly set up to grow, harvest, dry, package, and market catnip figure on sinking at least $100,000 in the business, maybe 2 or 3 times that. Sure want to make sure you have crop insurance to ensure cashflow. Lots of folks say it cant be done, one of my friends that I ggraduated high school with got out of college and couldnt find an ag teaching job. He started planting asparagus for fresh market and worked odd jobs on farms. Three years before he had something to sell. Made all the farmers market rounds. That was 18 years ago, now he markets pickled asparagus world wide, sells retail out of his home, also freshwater shrimp ponds, and sells organic alfalfa. He just has 30 acres, yet makes a profit in the low 6 figures annually. Took risks, sunk everything he made for years back ing the business, then just when he was making good money (clearing in the low 40's) he borrowed a million dollars and put in a top of the line pickleing and packing plant.

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Gerald J.

01-02-2005 09:27:28




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 Re: Small acreage profitability in reply to MeAnthony, 01-02-2005 04:07:25  
Hay sometimes works, but horsey customers often don't know what hay is good for their horses and are deathly afraid of dust in the hay.

There is a book about making big bucks on an acre, its based on intensive gardening by contract with the buyers paying in advance for garden crops. It is labor intensive.

Gerald J.



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greenbeanman

01-02-2005 08:53:34




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 Re: Small acreage profitability in reply to MeAnthony, 01-02-2005 04:07:25  
I seem to recall that much of the horseradish comes from your area of the country, i.e. the upper mid west.

Have you checked with your local extension office to see if they have reccomendations?



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Midwest redneck

01-02-2005 08:40:07




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 Re: Small acreage profitability in reply to MeAnthony, 01-02-2005 04:07:25  
I remember reading on here a few weeks or months ago that a guy had property that was not being used and somebody said to get a lot of liabilty insurance and make trails for snowmobiles and ATVs, charge $30/day or whatever. Of course you may hate sleds and ATVs. I do like the pumpkin idea that one of the guys said.



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mbptractor

01-02-2005 08:16:11




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 Re: Small acreage profitability in reply to MeAnthony, 01-02-2005 04:07:25  
maybe try pumkins seems to be working for my fatherinlaw.we live in mid east michigan he plants around 3 acres invest around $25.00 in seed and get around $1500.00 in return. he sells mostly to the local fruit markets.



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JJohnson

01-02-2005 07:54:05




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 Re: Small acreage profitability in reply to MeAnthony, 01-02-2005 04:07:25  
How about "Grapes" Not Wine Grapes,Juice Grapes,and roots to resell.It has been said that different types of garlic would be a Internet Crop.Be sure to check your Market!Good luck.



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Errin OH

01-02-2005 07:01:08




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 Re: Small acreage profitability in reply to MeAnthony, 01-02-2005 04:07:25  
Depends

Paying the taxes is fairly easy - rent it out. Paying for itself is a little harder and will take a tad bit more than conventional farming. Catnip maybe a good start. But what/where is the market. How you gonna get it from point A to point B? You will have to not only mow it, but pick it up, move it, and sell it. A lot of cost in those steps. To make some kinda of real income/profit from that little piece of land, your gonna have to be very creative. That catnip is gonna have to be a good quailty, packaged pretty, tied with a bow, carted to town and sold to people with more dollars than cents.

Short version
Set a goal. Then locate a market for a product that is in demand. It may or may not be a locally grow product. Chances are it won't be. Then set down and pencile it out.

Don't be afraid to think outta the box. I would have never thought that there would be a shrimp farm in Ohio. But just down the road outside New London OH there is.

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FRANK

01-02-2005 13:37:35




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 Re: Small acreage profitability in reply to Errin OH, 01-02-2005 07:01:08  

HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT RENTING OUT GARDEN SPOTS? THERE A LOT OF FOLKS THAT WOULD GLADLY PAY FORTY OR FIFTY BUCKS A SUMMER JUST TO BE ABLE TO RAISE THEIR OWN VEGGIES.



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hay

01-02-2005 06:02:53




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 Re: Small acreage profitability in reply to MeAnthony, 01-02-2005 04:07:25  
like was said, scope out the markets and ride the back roads to see what is growing. talk to some local farmers and seek out their opinion. a little research might save you a lot of time, money and aggravation. do some searches on google for growing tips and marketing advise. i do think that catnip needs a warmer climate, but i"m sure there are some crops that will do well in your area.



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BEN in KS

01-02-2005 05:40:31




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 Re: Small acreage profitability in reply to MeAnthony, 01-02-2005 04:07:25  
Do lots of research. Is there a farmer's market near you? If there is, go to it regularly and make special note of products that sell well. Is there something you could produce that would complement existing products? Can you grow something that nobody else has? Don't grow something unless there is a market for it, and don't sell wholesale if you can help it. Just my $0.02.



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