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How to make a device to crank a tractor

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James Herrman

12-29-2004 21:40:03




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Has anyone figured out a way to make an attachment or device to put on an F 20 (or any other crank tractor) to crank it using some sort of electric starter. I have a post hole digger mounted on the front of mine which makes it necessary to add a 2ft extension so that I am able to use the crank. I was thinking of some sort of flywheel mounted on where the crank goes and rig up a regular starter????? ?? Perhaps someone has made something by using some sort of gear reducer of gear inducer in order to make it easier to crank. I am handicapped, but do not want to give up cranking it. Today was the first time in 27 yrs that it has ran. We had to pull it. Thanks and any ideas would be GREATLY appreciated. JIM

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Richard Fazio

12-31-2004 05:22:27




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 Re: How to make a device to crank a tractor in reply to James Herrman, 12-29-2004 21:40:03  
I made an electric starter for a hand crank welder I have. I just made a rod that I stuck in an old 1/2" electric drill. I put it in just like the crank. The drill has a threaded hole for a pipe handle. I put a piece of pipe down to an angle on the welder to keep the drill from turning. Then I pulled the trigger. She turns over fine. The drill is 400 RPM. You need a slow turning drill. The engine I was starting was 134 CID I think. I don't know how big the F-20 is. If it's too big that would make it harder to turn of course.

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James Herrman

12-30-2004 20:53:52




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 Re: How to make a device to crank a tractor in reply to James Herrman, 12-29-2004 21:40:03  
MANY THANKS to all who answered my quiry!!!!! !!! I am sure that at least one of the ideas might work. At least this gives me some ideas to consider. Thanks once again to all who took their time concerning this matter. It was GREATLY appreciated. JIM



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James Herrman

12-30-2004 21:08:27




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 Re: How to make a device to crank a tractor in reply to James Herrman, 12-30-2004 20:53:52  
As the tractor has factory hydralics, perhaps a flex plate mounted to the pulley would be an idea. Thanks once again to all who took their time. JIM



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RayP(MI)

12-30-2004 11:54:11




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 Re: How to make a device to crank a tractor in reply to James Herrman, 12-29-2004 21:40:03  
Friend of mine had a 1909 Mogul. He had a device like a strap wrench made from a piece of belting, and a wooden handle about 4 or 5 feet long. He used it on the pulley wheel, pulled it, and as soon as engine started to turn on it's own, it would start to slide. Worked pretty well!



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BushogPapa

12-30-2004 08:06:50




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 Re: How to make a device to crank a tractor in reply to James Herrman, 12-29-2004 21:40:03  
Don't these usually have a belt pulley on the rt side..?? There were times that dad could start ours by rolling it over with his foot...after dinner..!! May be there is a way to put a foot lever (ratcheting) on the pulley, so you could start it that way..??? A large pulley attached to the Belt pulley, with a handle--like used on "hit and Miss" engines could be made up.. Best of luck... Ron..



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paul

12-30-2004 10:53:48




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 Re: How to make a device to crank a tractor in reply to BushogPapa, 12-30-2004 08:06:50  
Once it starts, what will keep the long handle from continuing to spin around..... .

--->Paul



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BushogPapa

12-30-2004 12:56:39




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 Re: How to make a device to crank a tractor in reply to paul, 12-30-2004 10:53:48  
It would fold back, like on a "hit and miss engine.... OR, have a ratcheting or removal dog, like a hand crank..

Just an idea..that could work...

Ron.



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paul

12-30-2004 17:13:55




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 Re: How to make a device to crank a tractor in reply to BushogPapa, 12-30-2004 12:56:39  
Or like the strap wrench idea above, I see.

I saw an old engine that was started with a 20 gauge shell, or so. Put it in a chamber, fire it, & the engine would be running.

--->Paul



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Redmud

12-30-2004 06:33:18




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 Re: How to make a device to crank a tractor in reply to James Herrman, 12-29-2004 21:40:03  
I have also seen a flexplate for an automatic trans,mounted behind the clutch. the starter was mounted on the frame rail. I don"t know, and didn"t ask what flexplate he used. but the starter was a flathead ford starter.
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farmalljim10

12-30-2004 03:51:21




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 Re: How to make a device to crank a tractor in reply to James Herrman, 12-29-2004 21:40:03  
I have seen one also with a starter mounted on the pto they used a flex plate from a automatic trans, the ones with the ring gear on them,and a car starter..I cannot remember which way the starter sat (because you have to turn the engine the right way) Jim



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Missouri Boy

12-30-2004 03:09:18




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 Re: How to make a device to crank a tractor in reply to James Herrman, 12-29-2004 21:40:03  
On F-12's I have seen an automobile flywheel mounted in the coupling behind the clutch and then had a starter motor to the flywheel. Also a couple years ago there was someone in this forum who had a starter on a 12 or 14 on the PTO shaft.



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37 chief

12-29-2004 22:48:32




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 Re: How to make a device to crank a tractor in reply to James Herrman, 12-29-2004 21:40:03  
My day would always park his F 12 on a hill. I can still see him using his foot, to get it to start rolling. That was a long time ago. If you don't have any hills that may be a problem. Stan



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Roy in UK

12-29-2004 23:11:01




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 Re: How to make a device to crank a tractor in reply to 37 chief, 12-29-2004 22:48:32  
My uncle used to do that with his Farmall BMD, good tractor, pathetic starter (apparently the North Americans would not touch the BMD with a barge pole for that reason, useless in your winters )



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Leland

12-29-2004 21:59:07




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 Re: How to make a device to crank a tractor in reply to James Herrman, 12-29-2004 21:40:03  
How about just pull starting it when you need it?



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Jack B. Nimble

12-30-2004 04:43:31




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 Re: How to make a device to crank a tractor in reply to Leland, 12-29-2004 21:59:07  
Unless you physically cannot crank the tractor you should not need a starter. My F-12 and F-20 will start on half a turn in any weather. After going through a short "priming" procedure I can pull the crank through compression and once I hear the mag click the tractor starts. It takes a well tuned engine and little practice to figure out the exact starting procedure, but once you get it, starting can be almost effortless.

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