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OT: fertilizer prices

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kyhayman

12-28-2004 15:04:33




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Anyone checked prepay fertilizer prices in your area? I went today and am still suffering from sticker shock.

Ammonium Nitrate, 34-0-0, $280 a ton (up $80 a ton)
DAP, 18-46-0, $302 a ton
Muriate of potash, 0-0-60, $265 a ton !!!, (up $100 from last year)




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FarmerDave

12-30-2004 17:13:37




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 Re: OT: fertilizer prices in reply to kyhayman, 12-28-2004 15:04:33  
Does the price of P or K go up and down seasonally? If so when the cheapest time to put it on?



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kyhayman

12-30-2004 17:28:31




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 Re: OT: fertilizer prices in reply to FarmerDave, 12-30-2004 17:13:37  
Since 1983 this has been the seasonal low time to buy (I prepay at the dealer and the pick up as I need it). In season price was always 'some' to 'significantly' higher. This year is just bizzare. So far I can only find 2 main drivers. Weak dollar and China.

The price of natural gas drives the price of N and to a degree DAP. Gas is high but not as high as it was 2 years ago yet N is a LOT higher. Imports of urea and ammonium nitrate kept a lid on it. With the dollar down against the Euro Spanish and Ukrainian N is a lot more expensive. Then China put in an order for 150 million tons of urea.

P price is actually down a little from last year. Nearly all US phosphate fertilizer is mined in the US. Dollar hasnt affected the price here, China isnt buying any more than normal, and natural gas is a little cheaper.

K, about a third of the total world output comes from Canada. China ordered 150 million tons in Oct (sent the price up $30 a ton on that alone). Weak dollar against the Canadian dollar hurts our ability to buy. Plus, report I saw showed that on June 30 when Saskatuwan (sp) Potash shut down for the month their inventory was 0. Local co-op ordered 100 tons in August for immediate delivery and due to rationing at the terminal only received 75 tons.

Did get some good news. I went aggressively price shopping and found muriate for $205, ammonium nitrate for $255, and DAP for $275.

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Jim@concordfarms.

12-28-2004 18:04:40




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 Re: OT: fertilizer prices in reply to kyhayman, 12-28-2004 15:04:33  
82-0-0 at 490 now. West-central Indiana.



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Jerry/MT

12-28-2004 17:22:14




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 Re: OT: fertilizer prices in reply to kyhayman, 12-28-2004 15:04:33  
My guy wouldn't give me a quote (Western MT). He said he though that they were about $20/T higher than they were going to end up at. Still doesn't help when Ammonium Nitrate is at $280!



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ejr

12-28-2004 16:22:55




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 Re: OT: fertilizer prices in reply to kyhayman, 12-28-2004 15:04:33  
Iowa western NH3 410.00



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HaySam

12-28-2004 16:19:30




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 Re: OT: fertilizer prices in reply to kyhayman, 12-28-2004 15:04:33  
NH3 $365.00



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edchainsaw

12-28-2004 18:32:16




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 Re: OT: fertilizer prices in reply to HaySam, 12-28-2004 16:19:30  
my uncle is a dealer... best he can do right now is $500/ton for NH3 and swares its going to be higher after JAN1... now by JUN 1 it WILL be lower.



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