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John Deere B ownership dispute resolution

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Lynn Kasdorf

11-10-2004 07:07:26




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So, as some may recall, there was this 1947 John Deere B that had an ownership dispute. The guy I bought it from had it in his barn for years, but the woman across the street claims she never gave up ownership. He claims she gave it and other tractors to his mom.

Anyway, after much wrangling, I got my money back for the tractor and a few hundred more, and she is going to haul the tractor back. I paid $1100 for this B, and I rebuilt the carb and got it to run. But it needs a bunch of work still- notably gas tank repair, needs a front tire, rear tires are very bad, rims are rusuted out, wiring is essentially not there, guages are bad, needs a seat, every seal leaks badly, etc. I decided that it was not worth the hassle, expense, and bad blood of trying to take her to court to keep the tractor (I have a cancelled check).

So, her farm hand calls me up and says that If I give her $2400 I can keep the tractor (they supposedly checked prices on ebay). I said I would *think* about it (mostly to give me more time). $2400 is what a complete, usable, running B would go for, and this is far from that.

I poked around on ebay to see prices, and I happened to spot a 1940 hand start styled B that was actually not that far from me. In fact, it was only about 15 miles from my mother-in-law's house in Westminster MD, which is where we were going on Sunday anyway. So I was able to inspect the tractor.

Anyway, I got it (for $1073 delivered)! Sn 95130. So I told the woman she can come and get her precious tractor. I think she has no idea how much work is needed to make it usable.

I like my 1940 B better anyway. The engine was stuck, but after one evening's work, I unstuck it. Diesel fuel in the plug holes and a few hours of soak, and a long lever on the flywheel did the trick. It is still very hard to turn over, but at least it is not frozen up any more. I plan to pull the head to see what is going on in there, and see how the cylinders look. From my peeking in the plug hole, the cylinder walls look basicaly ok.

I prefer the metal seat and the cool "John Deere" in the casting of the rear end. I also like that it is a hand start and magneto- no battery to worry about. Assuming I keep it tuned up, and work out a place to park it under cover on a hill, it will be ok!

Another nice thing is that this one has powr-trol (decal and all), whereas the other one just had powr-lift. No apparent leak around the PTO like on the other one.

So, I am swapping some sheet metal with the one that is leaving and I think I will end up with a nice tractor, for not much money.

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Kendall

11-12-2004 14:20:14




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 Re: John Deere B ownership dispute resolution in reply to Lynn Kasdorf, 11-10-2004 07:07:26  
Good story.



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paul

11-10-2004 20:30:22




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 Re: John Deere B ownership dispute resolution in reply to Lynn Kasdorf, 11-10-2004 07:07:26  
Thanks for the update. Sounds like you are coming out ok on it all.

$2400 huh? too funny.

--->Paul



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Sloroll

11-10-2004 11:26:34




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 Re: John Deere B ownership dispute resolution in reply to Lynn Kasdorf, 11-10-2004 07:07:26  
Always amazing to me how a hunk of rust that no one wants turns to gold once someone thinks another made a nickle on it. Let em suck on it. If I were the one "storing" it for the old girl I'd charge her back storage fees too since such a fuss was made over ownership. It sounds like it isn't worth a lot and you have a better deal in my opinion. Bill



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Steve(OR)

11-10-2004 10:40:47




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 Re: John Deere B ownership dispute resolution in reply to Lynn Kasdorf, 11-10-2004 07:07:26  
Just curious - how you gonna justify "swapping some sheet metal with the one that is leaving"? This old lady sounds sharp enough to notice.



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Joe MD

11-10-2004 10:34:10




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 Re: John Deere B ownership dispute resolution in reply to Lynn Kasdorf, 11-10-2004 07:07:26  
Sounds like a great deal.

I have 105785 in Westminster, MD.

I find it frustrating how little antique green can be found in Maryland. I guess the Farmall dealers were just bigger.



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Trkr

11-11-2004 10:12:35




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 Re: John Deere B ownership dispute resolution in reply to Joe MD, 11-10-2004 10:34:10  
Dennis Cook is having an auction in a couple weeks,30 some 2 cyl Deeres in Harford co.



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720Deere

11-10-2004 12:39:10




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 Re: John Deere B ownership dispute resolution in reply to Joe MD, 11-10-2004 10:34:10  
Joe,

You must just be in the wrong part of MD! I live in Harford County and the majority is Green here. We travel to shows/pulls in Cecil, Baltimore, Frederick & Anne Arundel counties plus a few in PA and there is more than enough John Deere tractors around. It was before my time, but it seems like in the 50s & 60s, there was a Deere dealer on every other corner. We had at least five within 20 miles of where I grew up. Only about 2 IHC dealers in the same area.

Come on over to Harford County if you want to see Green.

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Joe MD

11-10-2004 13:17:02




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 Re: John Deere B ownership dispute resolution in reply to 720Deere, 11-10-2004 12:39:10  
720 Deere,

I'd be interested in finding out more about these local shows. Do you know where I would find information on when/where?

I may be wrong but Carroll County seems like it used to be farmall land to me.

I did see a lot of green my last time through Harford though.

Thanks,
Joe



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Big Mike

11-10-2004 08:39:09




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 Re: John Deere B ownership dispute resolution in reply to Lynn Kasdorf, 11-10-2004 07:07:26  
Sounds good! Let her come and git the other one now. Heck, in a few years you might be able to pick it up at the Estate Auction, if you still want it.....



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Mike (WA)

11-10-2004 08:21:34




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 Re: John Deere B ownership dispute resolution in reply to Lynn Kasdorf, 11-10-2004 07:07:26  
Sounds like you are much better off, without even considering the human aspects of the deal. From your description of the first one, you would have considerably more in it than its worth by the time you are finished. I'm not a big Deere fan, but I see nicely painted ones go through auctions around here in the $1,500 range, which would be a much better deal than even a free one that needs tires, rims, etc. and a lot of work.

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