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Case backhoe: tach works, hr mtr doesn't

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Lynn Kasdorf

10-05-2004 10:22:49




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On my old Case 580B backhoe, the hour meter doesn't change. It stays at 9153 (!)

What is strange is that the hour meter is built in to the tach. I figured that if the tach is responding, it should be driving the hour meter as well. At least, that is how it works on my Ford 650 tach.

I have not yet looked to see if there is a separate connection for the hour meter- if so, that would steer me to an external source of the problem. If indeed the hours should be counting as the tach revs, then it must be a problem internal to the meter.

Any ideas here?
Thanks.

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chip man

10-05-2004 15:35:22




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 Re: Case backhoe: tach works, hr mtr doesn't in reply to Lynn Kasdorf, 10-05-2004 10:22:49  
some of the machines at work have diesel engines with an electric tach. the signal for the tach comes from the alternator, and the hourmeter (combined with the tach) is signaled from the fuel pressure switch. sometimes a wire gets loose.



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Joe (Wa)

10-05-2004 12:59:30




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 Re: Case backhoe: tach works, hr mtr doesn't in reply to Lynn Kasdorf, 10-05-2004 10:22:49  
Most tachometers & speedometers on tractors and vehicles in this era and earlier were the drag cup type. The tach cable drives the tach pointer electrically and the hour or odometer mechanically.

I am not famaliar with the 580 but Case 530 and lower nr series tractors are drag cup. The tach cable spins a permanent magnetic inside a cup that has a spindle attached with the pointer on the end. The cup deflects relative to the magnetic force generated by the speed of the tach cable and thus the sweep of the pointer across the gauge face. The hour counter is driven mechanically by the tach cable via a worm gear, an immediate spur gear and a small spur gear on the counter drum. If any of the 3 gears strip or not in driving contact, the tach will continue to display and but the counter will not change.

Joe

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C P

10-05-2004 12:57:51




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 Re: Case backhoe: tach works, hr mtr doesn't in reply to Lynn Kasdorf, 10-05-2004 10:22:49  
I am not sure in your case but on my lawnmowers the hour meters tend to just die after awhile. Power could be still going to it and allowing your tach to work but the hour meter it self could be gone. On my case the tach doesn't work but the hour meter does.



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JoeK

10-05-2004 15:06:00




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 Re: Case backhoe: tach works, hr mtr doesn't in reply to C P, 10-05-2004 12:57:51  
Tach/Hr meters(mechanical) are very like a car/trk speedometer in their workings.Often a speedometer shop can repair them much cheaper than buying a new unit.



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