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What's with some tractor sellers ???

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Ray

10-03-2004 11:45:58

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I responded to a tractor add in the classifieds,
the guy said,I don't really want to put a price on it,I guess I'm taking offers,Think I'll put
some pictures on the internet,then he told me
what he thought it was worth,but he wouldn't sell
it for that now.I don't like to make offers,they
just use you to make someone else bid more.I made
an offer on a tractor last year,the guy sold it for 50 bucks more to someone else.I would have
gave a thousand more but he never called me back like he said he would.

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TimFL

10-04-2004 09:03:27

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Re: What's with some tractor sellers ??? in reply to Ray, 10-03-2004 11:45:58

There isn't much honor amung sellers because there isn't much honor amung buyers. How many times have you put something out there to sell and people come out of the woodwork to blow hot air at you or just look or offer some sort of crazy trade? Not to mention that the whole best offer thing is backwards. When a guy offers some thing lets say 5000.00 OBO that means that 5000.00 is his minimum and he will consider all offers above that. Thus the term "BEST offer". Somewhere it has got turned around to mean that he is asking 5000.00 but he would be willing to take a lesser offer.
As a seller one is not obligated to any conversations, phone offers or dirt kickin. When someone walks up with the right amount of cash in hand then things get serious. Until there is honor in buyers there won't be much honor in sellers.
Tims$.02

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txblu

10-04-2004 09:53:06

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Re: What's with some tractor sellers ??? in reply to TimFL, 10-04-2004 09:03:27

Looks like you're recovering from the hurricanes. Glad you have your spunk back.

First time that I heard OBO means above the asking price. Around here, OBO means that the seller is embarassed at the fact that he wanted what he did for the product and before he ran all the potential buyers off (cause it's priced too high), he'd come down a little.

Agree with first in is first out.$$$$$ talks, rest is just lip flappin..... .but I too have attenpted to set up a transaction before, as you gotta have your loot ready and all, and got loplollied by the seller.

My 2c.

Mark

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Mike M

10-04-2004 07:28:44

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Re: What's with some tractor sellers ??? in reply to Ray, 10-03-2004 11:45:58

There's all kinds selling stuff today. I called about a tractor in a newspaper ad.The ad discribed the tractor and price was $7500 OBO. I called the guy right away and made an appointment to see him that evening I was to be the first one to set up a time to meet him. I tried to call him later to confirm appointment but could not get ahold of him. I was also wondering about that price as it seemed too low ? He never mentioned it on the phone. Well I hooked up the trailer rounded up the money in cash and headed out arrived on time only to see someone else was there before me. I was told I was to be the first one to see it. I then found out that it was BEST OFFER OVER $7500 I could not get him to put a price on it.Said he had to give the others a call back first and would call me back later. Well he never called me back so I called him the next day and chewed him out for running an auction and not even giving anyone a chance to bid. I did not get the tractor but lucky for him I made an offer that made him get more money from the other guy. I stopped offering because I saw no end in site and said the heck with it.

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Leland

10-03-2004 20:47:26

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Re: What's with some tractor sellers ??? in reply to Ray, 10-03-2004 11:45:58

Ray thats life ,remember the early bird catches the worm.

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Farm w/Junk

10-04-2004 11:59:37

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But....... in reply to Leland, 10-03-2004 20:47:26

The second mouse gets the cheese!! LOL

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Ryan-WI

10-03-2004 18:39:29

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Re: What's with some tractor sellers ??? in reply to Ray, 10-03-2004 11:45:58

The other side of the coin...

I recently sold some of my grandfather"s. His tractors were hard to put a price on because of age and condition. One was an IHC Titan. I asked for peoples opinions on what it was worth. I got answers anywhere from $500 to $5000. Pretty hard to nail down an asking price from that. How is it that if you do not know the value that you are to get a fair price without asking for offers? Guess to high you waste your time, guess too low and you just cheated your grandfather. I guess it is just difficult for some of you guys to see it this way as you KNOW how much something is worth. Some of us sellers on the other hand... don"t

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brian1

10-03-2004 18:24:36

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Re: What's with some tractor sellers ??? in reply to Ray, 10-03-2004 11:45:58

works both ways... had a local guy advertise a nice outfit "asking $6400", so I'd have paid $7000 but I offered $6000. He says no so I figure he was "asking" a price to come down a little. I offer $6200 thinking he would meet me half way. No dice- so I said let me sleep on it. That was 9pm Sunday night, I called hime the next morning at 10am to let him know I had a check in hand for $6400. Nope sold it to someone else. So I said, if he isn't real serious about that exact outfit, I'd like to buy it off him for $6700. Seller wouldn't even pass my name along. Why? He got exactly what he wanted out of it. Why not at least give the next guy the option?

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Ray

10-03-2004 18:35:17

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Re: What's with some tractor sellers ??? in reply to brian1, 10-03-2004 18:24:36

I priced a tractor at a John deere dealership
a few weeks ago.When I asked the price the dealer said 7000,I said I'll go look at it on the lot.As I walked out the door he said,"Now it might be more than that".

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Bob

10-03-2004 21:49:15

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Re: What's with some tractor sellers ??? in reply to Ray, 10-03-2004 18:35:17

What tractor did you find at a Deere dealer priced at only $7000.00... an old Ford???

(No flames, pleasse, I;m just kidding!)

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txblu

10-04-2004 09:42:34

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Re: What's with some tractor sellers ??? in reply to Bob, 10-03-2004 21:49:15

Pffffflllll lllll lllll lllll llttttt tt. Me too; kidding that is.

Hah Hah.

I am really jesting, no joke..... ..... ...I think.

Mark

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Paul in Mich

10-03-2004 17:30:16

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Re: What's with some tractor sellers ??? in reply to Ray, 10-03-2004 11:45:58

Ray, The way I see it is that this is free enterprise at its finest. One of the fundemental elements of bartering is recognizing who needs to make the deal most. Every deal is not for everyone. If you are looking for an item, you either pay according to your need or to the sellers need. If the seller really doesn"t need to sell his item, then he has the upper hand in that he is in a position to hold out until he gets his price. If you as a buyer really don"t need an item, you can in turn hold out until that item or a similar item is available at a lower price. A person submitting an ad is under no obligation to reveal his low ball price. Indeed he has every right to hold out for the best offer. Conversly, you as a buyer, have no obligation to offer one penny more than you think an item is worth to you. A seller may advertise an item and then pull the ad without selling. It is his perogative. YOu in turn have no obligation to even answer the ad in the first place if you think it is a game you don"t feel comfortable getting into. The only time any seller has any obligation to any buyer is if a contract has been agreed upon, money changed hands, warrantys implied or contracted. But never is a seller required to play by your rules prior to any negotiations, not are you under any similar requirements. And yes, if you don"t like his deal, you can go elsewhere. Ultimately if he drives too hard of a bargain, he makes no sale. It is simply who is willing to compromise and who isnt.

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Way Up Here

10-03-2004 13:11:27

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Re: What's with some tractor sellers ??? in reply to Ray, 10-03-2004 11:45:58

Don't want to sound rude, but if you would've paid $1000 more, why did you make such a low offer? You decided to play his "make an offer" game but you decided to low-ball him and as a result some other guy benefited from your offer. My advice would be to just stay clear of those characters, they want to play cards with you but they want your hand showing.

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Nebraska Cowman

10-03-2004 11:58:05

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Re: What's with some tractor sellers ??? in reply to Ray, 10-03-2004 11:45:58

yup, had that happen before too. You can't buy them all. And you can't buy them if they won't price them. It seems some guys are just fishing so we just have to let them hang out their lines!

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JoeK

10-03-2004 14:10:31

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Re: What's with some tractor sellers ??? in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 10-03-2004 11:58:05

What I fail to understand is these folks that do not post a price.I've gotten to the point of ignoring ads without a price.Face it if you're selling something,you KNOW what you WANT and/or what you'll TAKE.Say your're selling your rare Flobotnik 400 PufferDiesel and figure it's worth $5000,then put the price in the ad.If you have to have that much,"Tag"the price as FIRM,if you're willing to dicker a bit tag it "Asking","Or Best Offer",or "Negotiable. It PO's me to no end to see the pic,know I want it,know it's within resonable distance etc,and then have NO DANG CLUE as to the price.In my OPINION,ads without at least an "asking price" should not be accepted.

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harley1983

10-03-2004 16:45:40

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Re: What's with some tractor sellers ??? in reply to JoeK, 10-03-2004 14:10:31

Hey Joe, where can I get a Flobotnik Puffer Diesel? I have a gasser, but I've always wanted a diesel. Another question are these now made in Flobotnik or did they outsource them to Razbeckistan. I've heard the ones made in Razbeckistan are harder to get parts for as the camel trains don't run as regularly as they used to. Any help would be appreciated, Harley

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txblu

10-04-2004 09:45:01

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Re: What's with some tractor sellers ??? in reply to harley1983, 10-03-2004 16:45:40

And I thought I had the distinction of being the only smartass on this board.

Har Har
Mark

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JoeK

10-04-2004 07:38:32

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Re: What's with some tractor sellers ??? in reply to harley1983, 10-03-2004 16:45:40

They are indeed rare,compounded by the fact that the manuals are usually written in Ancient Latin,which makes "Flobotniking"efficiently somewhat difficult,but if I should find one I don't need for my stable,I'll be sure to letcha know.Right now I'm seeking a rare nickelchrome Vindenschtuffer supercharger/tire pump for my diesel :)

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Stony Jim

10-03-2004 16:57:37

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Re: What's with some tractor sellers ??? in reply to harley1983, 10-03-2004 16:45:40

I understand that PETA got their snotty snouts involved, and have gotten the Razbeckistanian camel drivers limited to 50 lbs of parts per camel, rather than the 500 lbs per camel they had been transporting. Just takes a year or two longer to get them!

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Harley1983

10-03-2004 20:52:56

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Re: What's with some tractor sellers ??? in reply to Stony Jim, 10-03-2004 16:57:37

Stoney, now I know what you guys are going to say, but this is no $hit. The other night they had one of those "Here we are and here is what's going on over here" type programs, and with my hand in the air, some Afghan hooligans on one side or the other, were transporting a stripped down Chevy Blazer body over the Kyber Pass on the back of a freaking camel. They say the black market chop shops are going like they used to in Newark in Joisey. All the smaller pieces were on the other camels in the carivan, but the 4-door body was on one camel and they had guy ropes on each corner and they were just a trucking over rocks, boulders, sand and each other. I had to sit and just belly laugh. These are the stone age goat herding camel jockeys that we are trying to let vote and they just don't have a freaking clue. Totally amazing, Harley

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gahorn

10-03-2004 14:34:37

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Re: What's with some tractor sellers ??? in reply to JoeK, 10-03-2004 14:10:31

I remember watching my Dad shop for a car.
"What's your offer?", the salesman asked.
"YOU'RE the one selling. What's your price?", my Dad countered.
"Well, I'll entertain any offer you wish to make!", the salesman said.
"I didn't come here to entertain you. Come on son, let's go elsewhere.", Dad said. That salesman followed Dad all the way off the car lot trying to get him to stay and "dicker".
An hour later, Dad deliberately drove back by that car-lot, blew the horn of our new Chrysler and waved at the astonished salesman as we kept on travellng! (At least I THINK he waved. Dad's hand was out of my sight above the roof of the car and I can only ASSUME his palm was flat.) ;�

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txblu

10-04-2004 09:57:44

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Re: What's with some tractor sellers ??? in reply to gahorn, 10-03-2004 14:34:37

Don't be too sure. But..... ..... .. it probably was. Showing the salesman that he funbled the ball was satisfaction enough.

I've done that before also, hoping that It'd help the next guy coming along to make a purchase.

Mark

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