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Johntow

09-27-2004 06:51:59




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Hi everyone hope someone can give me some advice. I have a mustang 310 skid steer I just bought everythings fine when the machine is cold but after using it for about 1 hour the bucket looses all power. It will work if its empty but if someone just puts there foot in the bucket it wont move. I have tightened the belt no change the pump its self and the filter both look new. I have left it sit for a couple of hours and then everything is fine till you use it for some time. Any ideas where I should start?

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geok

09-27-2004 18:58:15




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 Re: Hydrolic problem in reply to Johntow, 09-27-2004 06:51:59  
When loader loses power check and see if the hydraulic fluid has foamed up. There may be a built in screen inside the hydraulic tank that is plugging up. You may need to drain remove screen and clean it.



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Mark - IN.

09-27-2004 17:28:13




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 Re: Hydrolic problem in reply to Johntow, 09-27-2004 06:51:59  
Well John, hydraulic cylinders can move mountains, if they're in good shape and can get air-free fluid to them. The pump and filter look new? How's your hydraulic fluid level? Motor is out of box failure and has a bad seal(s) maybe? Maybe former owner thought the original motor was the problem, but wasn't? Maybe a control valve is failing or sticking under pressure and not moving to the position you're directing it, not allowing fluid to move?

"bucket won't move when someone puts a foot into it". Are you saying that you're releasing pressure and still won't go down, even when applying pressure? Double action control valve working with a two way cylinder, or two seperate control valves? I'm going to guess at one single two-way, and that may be where your problem is - sticking under pressure? If you meant "does move when someone puts a foot in it", then I'd be looking for leaking seals anywhere, including cylinders. But that's not what you said, so it doesn't sound like a cylinder is failing or has a leaky seal, otherwise would be dropping under load pressure instead of maintaining, or not budging to begin with.

I know nothing about any "skid ster", but with hydraulics, a motor moves fluid to whatever direction one allows it to flow with a control valve, and the cylinders move accordingly. A filter keeps dirt, debris, and moisture out.

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paul

09-27-2004 17:37:15




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 Re: Hydrolic problem in reply to Mark - IN., 09-27-2004 17:28:13  
I think he means the bucket lift becomes so weak, it can barely lift itself - as little as someone standing on the bucket when the oil is hot & it won't lift....

--->Paul



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Mark - IN.

09-27-2004 18:01:41




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 Re: Hydrolic problem in reply to paul, 09-27-2004 17:37:15  
Ahhhh! That's what I would've thought he meant, but didn't read it that way. Now include the cylinders, and start looking for leaks, and bleeding those lines, in addition to a bad control valve that isn't closing fully, a filter not allowing flow of fluid to the motor, a bad motor (last place I'd look since is new, unless refurbed).

First place to look? Fluid level, but am pretty sure did that, right?

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paul

09-27-2004 18:44:46




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 Re: Hydrolic problem in reply to Mark - IN., 09-27-2004 18:01:41  
And fluid quality - water in it, wrong grade....

--->Paul



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