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Proper Radial tire usage

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Can't even use

09-17-2004 15:08:45




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There has been quite a bit of talk about Radial tires lately and it seems that some don't fully understand how to correctly use them. And I am not trying to be a jerk, just trying to inform so you get the most use out of the technology.

First thing is don't use fluid in them add cast weight ask your supplier... Although I think I did read somewhere if you had to get more weight only fill 1/4 full but this is a last resort.
Second thing is you have to know the axle load to determine the pressure you need to run. 18 psi is too much unless you are running small singles on a heavy tractor. There are charts that tell you what to run. If you put on duals lower the pressure if you add a mounted implement you may have to raise the pressure. Otherwise you are wasting money and the available gains from the radials.

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jim

09-18-2004 21:31:57




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 Re: Proper Radial tire usage in reply to Can't even use my own nam, 09-17-2004 15:08:45  
You can run calcium in them, but don't fill them up over the rim like a bias ply. 3/4 or so. Use tubes to protect rims from rust



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Can't even use my name

09-19-2004 06:26:15




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 Re: Proper Radial tire usage in reply to jim, 09-18-2004 21:31:57  
I know you CAN but it is recommended you don't due to the fact that they cause a stiffening effect and pretty much kill the whole idea of the radial tire flattening out. Read the link to the article I posted. And they got the info from Firestone.



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Can't even use my own nam

09-18-2004 05:34:31




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 Re: Proper Radial tire usage in reply to Can't even use my own nam, 09-17-2004 15:08:45  
Found one article about using liquid ballast, last paragraph in the first column.



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Rod F.

09-17-2004 20:24:18




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 Re: Proper Radial tire usage in reply to Can't even use my own nam, 09-17-2004 15:08:45  
I've never heard tell of not using CaCl in radial tires. Tire shops readily load them around here, and never say boo. Out of curosity, what exactly is the problem with using CaCl? As for pressure, you are correct. Pressure must be matched to load. However, this is true of bias tires as well, just that most of us never bother. They just get blown up to 20 and left there. I run the radials at about 12. I have duals for the real heavy loads, so I never change the pressure. Too big a pain with all that CaCl in there. Come to think of it, mabey that answeres the question of why not? Again, I'm just curious.

Rod

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Can't even use my name

09-17-2004 21:43:27




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 Re: Proper Radial tire usage in reply to Rod F., 09-17-2004 20:24:18  
Not sure why exactly but they say it doesn't allow it to flex like it should. I don't understand it either but that is what the guys from both Goodyear and Michelin told us. I didn't beleive it either but then I read it in an article somewhere in some magazine. It is recommended to add cast weights rather than the fluid.



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TheRealRon

09-17-2004 15:23:59




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 Re: Proper Radial tire usage in reply to Can't even use my own nam, 09-17-2004 15:08:45  
Firestone AG disagrees with you about the first point. Done per their recommendations, liquid ballast is perfectly acceptable.

I concur that tire pressure is critical. The manufacturers are more than willing make recommendations and I certainly follow them except when I should know better. An example; I chase over logging stubble. In that case, I want the least amount of air in the tire that will keep it up so as to minimize the chance of poking a hole in one. Same deal for plowing snow; in that case it's all about maximum traction.

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Shep Va

09-17-2004 16:29:34




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 Re: Proper Radial tire usage in reply to TheRealRon, 09-17-2004 15:23:59  
I agree with Ron, we run Titan and BFG Radials and the tire guys have always said that running CaCl in the radials is acceptable, and they run and wear great with 3/4 fluid fill.

I think we run most of our tires at 15 to 20 PSI depending on the tractor and what we are doing with it. There again I take the advice of the tire guys that sell and service the tires, he is an owner / operator and he knows his tires. Every time he comes over to work on a tire for the farm he checks all the tires in the shed for me, and makes recommendations on them. Great guy, and he knows what customer service is all about.

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