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First time hauling experience

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Hardy

09-17-2004 09:33:13




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I want to haul my newly restored 1530 JD. Weighs about 4600 lbs. Need good safty advise for keeping it on the trailer.




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stan

09-18-2004 00:37:41




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 Re: First time hauling experience in reply to Hardy, 09-17-2004 09:33:13  
I do mowing and chain my tractor and mower front and rear. I used a chain binder on both ends. One time I had the front binder raddle loose because I didn't pay attention to the chain lcation on the axle. The chain slipped over and loosened up. At the next stop light the tractor and mower rolled off the trailer. Not a good thing. I now pay attention to chain location and put tractor in gear, and wire binder handle closed. Stan

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Leland

09-17-2004 18:37:02




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 Re: First time hauling experience in reply to Hardy, 09-17-2004 09:33:13  
These very bright men forgot 1 very important thing A COUPLE OF GOOD SPARE TIRES AND A GOOD JACK AND LUG WRENCH!!!!! !!!



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Billy NY

09-17-2004 11:05:23




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 Re: First time hauling experience in reply to Hardy, 09-17-2004 09:33:13  
Also, when tightening your ratchet binders, pull all the slack out of your chains, get as tight a fit as you can when you hook onto them, also leave enought thread out on the binders, meaning unwind them until you have plenty of room to re-tighten, but enough thread engaged to be safe. By taking the slack out of the chain, giving your self lots of thread on the binders, you are less apt to have the chains loosen, and have room to re-tighten. Usually anything you haul on a trailer that has rubber tires like a tractor, will bounce and can loosen the chains a few miles down the road. I like to make sure I can see the chains in my mirrors, this way I can check and see if they are tight. Usually when you crank down on the binders, you can see the tires bulge out a little, then you have a tight fit, after it settles out going down the road, they can loosen, but you will also notice if the tractor bounces, your chain may slacken momentarily, then tighten back up. When hauling a crawler or something without tires, this does not occur.

Also a frost covered deck can be very slippery no matter what you put on it, always make sure to sweep off any excess dirt or mud, the guy behind you will appreciate that, LOL ! Most of this is common sense, best to take your time and always lash it down properly, as once something gets motion it's not going to be stopped vs. something securely chained and blocked ( blocking can be helpful sometimes ) does not have a chance to gain motion, almost like it's a part of the trailer. Have never seen a good quality chain break under loading tension, but if slacked and a machine gets away from you, you can bet on it snapping, too much force etc. Well, thats a few cents worth, LOL, take your time, use the right equipment,and common sense.

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TheRealRon

09-17-2004 09:52:53




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 Re: First time hauling experience in reply to Hardy, 09-17-2004 09:33:13  
Indy knows what he's doing. One more point, get the tongue weight right. 10%-15% of the trailer/tractor must be on the tongue. Back the tractor on the trailer.



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txblu

09-17-2004 10:04:48




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 Re: First time hauling experience in reply to TheRealRon, 09-17-2004 09:52:53  
this is sooooo ooooo ooooo ooo important. You wouldn't believe how far a trailer will swing and how fast it will do it on a jack knife caused by tail loading a trailer and going down a hill where the trailer is trying to push the truck.

Was behind a 16' bumper pull tandem which had 3 concrete culverts loaded rear heavy. We were coming down this long hill (I was about 1/2 mile back). There was a bridge at the bottom of the hill and when the rig hit the bridge, there was a little lift and all of a sudden, the trailer was at 90 degrees left then right then left and by then the guy had the rig pretty much slowed down and it settled down. Tore out both rear fenders of the truck.

I usually pull on the trailer and as I cross the tandem, I watch the tailgate of the truck. While creeping forward, when I see the tailgate drop about 2" I stop. That usually puts the rear tractors on top of the rear tandems.

Nuf said.

On the chain requirements, Texas has no such laws of which I am aware. If it's federal law then so be it. Texas has a web site where the laws are posted and saw no such animal. Did see where the towing vehicle to trailer had to have DOT approved chains EXCEPT FOR FARM TRAILERS. My trailer is registered farm exempt and when I'm hauling my tractor it is a farm function.

What I do (with a bumper pull) is use the sway bars that you see on camptrailers that equalize the load. Amazing how much bouncing these sway bars eliminate. Serve as a great safety device too, better than chains.

Mark

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Indydirtfarmer

09-17-2004 09:40:46




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 Re: First time hauling experience in reply to Hardy, 09-17-2004 09:33:13  
To comply with D.O.T. regs, you need grade 70 chains. (No nylon tie-down straps or "cheap" chain) I would recomend rachet type binders. If you have an impliment attached to the tractor, it needs an additional chain. (2 on the tractor, one pulling forward to the corners of the trailer, and one to the rear corners) I tighten mine untill they start to flatten the tires slightly. Make sure your trailer has brakes. And make certain your lighting on the trailer complies with your states laws. Go at a safe, reasonable speed. Don't crowd the vehicle in front of you. The additional weight of a trailer and tractor will shove you right into someone.
Above all, BE CAREFULL! John

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john in la

09-18-2004 04:50:35




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 Re: First time hauling experience in reply to Indydirtfarmer, 09-17-2004 09:40:46  
INDY...
Not to confuse Hardy because you have given him some good advise. While your facts may be a little off if he were to follow your advise he would be working with a good plan.

With that said and for decision purpose only can you explain this
"To comply with D.O.T. regs, you need grade 70 chains." "No nylon tie-down straps or "cheap" chain"

While I do not know every states laws; Federal DOT has no laws that say this.
In fact if he buys grade 70 chain and the tag falls off of it the DOT will consider it Grade 30.
Nylon straps are only restricted from use on crushed cars by tha DOT. You must use edge protectors and the proper size strap but they can be legally used per DOT.

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Indydirtfarmer

09-18-2004 16:40:51




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 Re: First time hauling experience in reply to john in la, 09-18-2004 04:50:35  
Your info is WAY off. First, there are no "tags" on grade 70 chains. They are "color coded" as such, to identify them. Grade 70 hooks have an I.D. cast into them.
I don't have my D.O.T. guidelines with me, but YES THEY DO have federal requirements, enforced by the state motor carrier enforcement officers, requiring grade 70 chains on ANY wheel mounted cargo transported on an interstate hiway, John

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Hardy

09-17-2004 17:11:25




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 Re: First time hauling experience in reply to Indydirtfarmer, 09-17-2004 09:40:46  
Thanks for your input. This has been very helpful.
Anyone else care to add to this, please do.



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