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Best bulletproof brush hog on the market?

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Jonboy

09-14-2004 09:46:19




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Hello, I'm thinking of replacing my old Massey Fergueson heavy duty 6ft rotary cutter for a new one since my dad managed to tear up my old mower again, and this time, it's pretty much beyond repair. I'm looking for the most heavy duty 6ft mower availible because we have lots of rocks and I occasionally do custom work, plus my dad can't see too well anymore and he like to mow too. It's going to go on an International 484 diesel (38 PTO HP) and weighs 6,000lbs. I'm looking for a mower that will stall the tractor before ruining the mower. My old one was just taken off the tractor with a busted 3pt, side skirts are trashed, tail wheel ripped off, 1 of the skids got torn off, and the blade holder got broke again. In case your wondering, my brush hog has seen alot of use and theres almost nothing that hasn't gotten bent or broke before on it.
Please help!

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ben uk

09-15-2004 11:14:03




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 Re: Best bulletproof brush hog on the market? in reply to Jonboy, 09-14-2004 09:46:19  
I have a 5 ft suire, but am in the UK, not sure if you can get them in the USA.

That topper has hit more stumps and rocks than you can imagine, has stalled my Fordson Super major once(before you say it, it did have a shear pin on the PTO shaft, it did not break!), and broken several shear pins on different shafts, and still keeps on going.

It is about 7 years old though, so im not sure what there like now.

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300 Randy

09-15-2004 07:19:54




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 Re: Best bulletproof brush hog on the market? in reply to Jonboy, 09-14-2004 09:46:19  
There nothing made by man that can't be trashed bent or broken. For a brush hog to take the kind of abuse that your talking about it would be to heavy for your tractor to pull. I'd make sure it had a shear pin at the gear box. You want the mower to stop before it stops the tractor.



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Les...fortunate

09-14-2004 18:36:29




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 Re: Best bulletproof brush hog on the market? in reply to Jonboy, 09-14-2004 09:46:19  
Jon, I don't know anything about this one we have other than my father bought it new many years ago. I've never seen another one but this one has done yeoman service for many years (like maybe 25). It's a 5' Mohawk. It's hit more rocks/stumps/unameit than I care to guesstimate and just keeps on ticking.



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JT

09-14-2004 17:02:27




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 Re: Best bulletproof brush hog on the market? in reply to Jonboy, 09-14-2004 09:46:19  
ROUNDUP:)



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John M

09-14-2004 15:52:50




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 Re: Best bulletproof brush hog on the market? in reply to Jonboy, 09-14-2004 09:46:19  
Maybe you should keep your Dad off the tractor.Not being a smarta$$,but if he cant see too well,maybe he shouldnt be bushhogging?



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John (MO)

09-14-2004 12:02:37




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 Re: Best bulletproof brush hog on the market? in reply to Jonboy, 09-14-2004 09:46:19  
I had an old MF like that. It looked like the devil, but it would pretty much cut anything you could get it on top of. I ran it behind a D-14 and sold it with the tractor thinking I could get something like it to go behind my D-19. I sure haven"t found anything like it yet. I gave $35. for that old MF because it looked so bad, but I swear it was better than any $1500 cutter I"ve seen since.

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Jonboy

09-14-2004 14:02:18




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 Re: Best bulletproof brush hog on the market? in reply to John (MO), 09-14-2004 12:02:37  
I gave $250 for this one a few years ago, and I just went to a Rhino dealer and talked about possibly trading for a new 6ft Rhino GR72 (superduty of the Rhino line), and he said he'd give me $250 for it, as is, but thats trading toward a new $4,500 mower. $4,500 is more than I wanted to spend as I was thinking more like $3,000 would be plenty, I'd still have to do quite a bit of custom work to pay for a $3,000 rig. I have alot of work to do with a brush hog and I have used that old Massey Fergueson for a few years and done quite a few acres with it, like you say it was really rugged and a super mower, but it's to the point now where it's a pile of junk and I've either got to do alot of fixing or replace it, the only thing that it's got going for it is the gearbox is totally unharmed, but the rest of it isn't much good. Finding a good used brushhog is hard around here is very difficult because I'm in stone country and most everybody buys the cheaper models, so they're all beat up and they always go for good prices at auctions. I could buy a cheaper replacement, but I'm afraid I'd be throwing my money away if I bought a lighter duty because it's very apt to end up in the same shape as the one I got with a bunch of it's parts piled on top of it. That brushhog for $4,500 I'm thinking should last a loooong time, so therefore it might be worth the extra bucks, but at the same time $4,500 is a whole lot to risk in a stony pasture. I probably won't end up with a GR72 just because it's half again as much as I wanted to spend, but it's got the durability I'd like.

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hay

09-14-2004 11:59:35




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 Re: Best bulletproof brush hog on the market? in reply to Jonboy, 09-14-2004 09:46:19  
i have a older HOWSE 6 ft. behind my ford 4000 and it seems indestructible. i think it has a 75 hp gearbox and i have hit most everything mentioned in this forum and no apparent damage. howse is not really a top line cutter, but this one seems really heavy built. don't know the model number of it. check out HOWSE, BUSH HOG, RHINO,ALAMO. sure to find a heavy duty unit.



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Mike M

09-14-2004 11:56:09




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 Re: Best bulletproof brush hog on the market? in reply to Jonboy, 09-14-2004 09:46:19  
The best brush mower ever made----- GOATS---



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doc diesel

09-14-2004 11:42:59




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 Re: Best bulletproof brush hog on the market? in reply to Jonboy, 09-14-2004 09:46:19  
here's one you don't here much aboui. alamo, a bit expensive but worth every penny. you can't hurt em, ya just cant.



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Davis In SC

09-14-2004 14:32:05




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 Re: Best bulletproof brush hog on the market? in reply to doc diesel, 09-14-2004 11:42:59  
State Hiway Dept & their contractors use a lot of Alamo Mowing Equipment. Those guys cover lots of ground & hit lots of debris. They must be tough mowers..... ....



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TheRealRon

09-14-2004 10:41:01




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 Re: Best bulletproof brush hog on the market? in reply to Jonboy, 09-14-2004 09:46:19  
I have a Rhino TW84. It's a 7' lift-type and requires at least a 60 hp tractor. It weighs 1,250 lb, has a bulletproof gearbox and clutch setup, and once turned a rock the size of a bowling ball into into hundreds of little rocks with no damage except a nick to the blade. I would expect their smaller models to perform as well.

You do not want one that will stall the tractor. You want one with a clutch otherwise you will get to replace your pto clutch pack and maybe even your pto shaft. That's why all high-end rotary cutter models have a clutch.

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Indydirtfarmer

09-14-2004 11:09:59




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 Re: Best bulletproof brush hog on the market? in reply to TheRealRon, 09-14-2004 10:41:01  
That Woods mower I'm talking about hits the scales at 1800 lbs. 120 hp rating on the gearbox, and 1/4" plate steel. It chopped up a car rim a couple weeks ago. (My nerves may never be the same again!) John



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Jonboy

09-14-2004 11:35:15




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 Re: Best bulletproof brush hog on the market? in reply to Indydirtfarmer, 09-14-2004 11:09:59  
My dad found an old piece of discarded culvert with that old Massey Furgeson, and thats what did it in. Still on the fence as to weither to get a new one or try to fix my old junker back up again, a new mower is going to be about $3,000, and I doubt a dealer would allow me $200 for my old one in pieces. My old mower is all paid for, and I did custom work with it mowing peoples stony pastures, and a new mower I'd be afraid to do that sort of stuff with it. My old mower could be fixed up and it wouldn't cost me much other than alot of time to cut out and replace the mangled sides with new steel, the blade holder, put the tail wheel back together, reweld the 3pt. Basically my gearbox is 100%, but the rest of it isn't, if it wasn't for the high cost of a new mower, my decision would be easy.

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James in NC

09-14-2004 10:30:39




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 Re: Best bulletproof brush hog on the market? in reply to Jonboy, 09-14-2004 09:46:19  
You should look at schulte they are extra heavy with 7 Gauage decks and a 5 year gearbox warranty. Plenty of steel on these mowers. www.schulte.ca



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Jerry/MT

09-14-2004 09:59:14




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 Re: Best bulletproof brush hog on the market? in reply to Jonboy, 09-14-2004 09:46:19  
You might consider a Sidewinder. They're spendy but most people that own them swear by them, not at them.www.side-winder.com



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Buzzman72

09-15-2004 05:35:04




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 Re: Best bulletproof brush hog on the market? in reply to Jerry/MT, 09-14-2004 09:59:14  
In the 1960's, Dad was looking for a line of rotary mowers to add, something that was built tough. Locally, the Woods "Dixie Cutter" was a big seller, but it wasn't built tough enough to suit Dad...neither were most of the independent lines. Finally, he ran across the SideWinder line, and he was sold. As a little independent garage/tractor shop, we sold around 200 SideWinder cutters in about 10 years, and most of 'em are still around. Originally, the "5-by5" could be retailed for around $295...which was a little more than the Woods "Dixie Cutter," but when the farmers compared the construction, we usually got the sale (unless the farmer suffered from "Terminal Titus Syndrome", where the dollar-and-cent bottom line outweighed any quality considerations).

If they're still around, they'd be worth a look-see.

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Indydirtfarmer

09-14-2004 09:56:45




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 Re: Best bulletproof brush hog on the market? in reply to Jonboy, 09-14-2004 09:46:19  
Woods, Bush Hog, Rhino, and a few more companies make 6' models that are rated to cut up to 4" material. I have one of the Woods BB8400 (7') You had better have plenty of front weights handy if you get one of these mowers. I'd go as far as to say NO ONE makes an indestructable mower. There's a reasonable limit to anything. After using the Woods BB8400, I'd say that it will cut anything that the tractor will push over, EXCEPT for rocks and tree stumps. John

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txblu

09-15-2004 05:45:33




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 Re: hayman you may want a whack too. in reply to Indydirtfarmer, 09-14-2004 09:56:45  
Indy,

I just sold my KK 6' with 60hp gearbox. Looking at a 7' but dunno.

Have bumpy terrain, terraces, lots of turning, no trees, just grass type things to cut, want to cut around 2.5" off ground.

One big blade or 2 small ones with 3 gearboxes; Fixed double rear wheels (ratchet control) or hyd control; drag or 3 pt? Self leveling deck or not?

Your candid opinion of yours would be appreciated and what you "should have done" would be appreciated.

Or would one want a side cutter type mower, the one with several wheels with little cutters? I bale the clippings usually so the side cutter is a thought, but I find the side mount very troublesome (awkward) as compared to a pull behind that is the width of the tractor.

Thanks,

Mark

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Pitch

09-14-2004 16:59:54




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 Re: Best bulletproof brush hog on the market? in reply to Indydirtfarmer, 09-14-2004 09:56:45  
Sounds like you need a flail mower rather than a rotary. More bucks but won't throw rocks.



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Robert in W. Mi.

09-15-2004 12:16:30




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 Re: Best bulletproof brush hog on the market? in reply to Pitch, 09-14-2004 16:59:54  
Flail mowers won't take anywhere near the abuse a rotary cutter will!! Use a flail mower on stumps and rocks much, and you will go broke keeping it working!

I've easily had the best luck with Woods brand rotary cutters, and my next one will be a Woods BB (Brush Bull) like Indy bought!!

Robert



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txblu

09-15-2004 05:37:23




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 Re: Best bulletproof brush hog on the market? in reply to Pitch, 09-14-2004 16:59:54  
Braid dead. What"s a flail mower?

Thanks,

Mark



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