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IH 460, more lube problem

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Ol Chief

08-07-2004 10:16:34




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I was not getting oil to the governor and timing gears so probed the oil gallery but cannot get thru .Possibly due to turns in the channels.Since then I have removed the radiator to gain access to the timing cover but will have to remove the front bolster w/all of the running gear .This is a nasty problem because the tractor is fitted with an extremely heavy loader and I am working outside with very limited hoisting equipment.I had a hunch that possibly I could fish thru the gallery by going from the top down.After removal of fhe valve cover I fired up the engine only to find out that the valves are also not getting oil.Does anyone have an schematic of this lube system or can someone explain how this oil system is routed.This engine was overhauled by some Clown just before I bought it and has not been operated because I found problems almost immediately.I have 45 lbs. oil pressure but it isn'going to any place except the bottom end. Now I am not even sure of the cam bearings.I have ordered a shop manual but need to get on with repair now cause I need this machine now .Any help will surely be appreciated. Tks, Ol Chief

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Jim J

08-08-2004 09:19:14




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 Re: IH 460, more lube problem in reply to Ol Chief, 08-07-2004 10:16:34  
The gears and the governor are lubed from a hole in the front cam bearing. The oil comes out of the bearing and goes into a notch cut in the plate that sets between the front cover and the block. I have found these slots plugged up sludge and wont let the front of the engine get lubed. My bet for the valves not getting lubed is that the head gasket is on upside down.



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Ol Chief

08-08-2004 10:02:59




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 Re: IH 460, more lube problem in reply to Jim J, 08-08-2004 09:19:14  
Jim thank you for the quick response.I AM IN DIRE NEED OF GETTING THIS TRACTOR RUNNING.I have a repair manual on order,but in the meantime need lots of advice.I have a lot of mechanical background but none on IH 460.It appears to me that it is necessary to separate the front end and power steering housing from the engine in order to remove the crank nut and pulleys just to remove the front cover and plate.This going to be a big job because of the loader being attached.Unfortunately the idiot who assembled this engine,did not use gaskets There is Permatex #2 in all mating faces. Probably this compound has closed the oil ports.I have removed the oil filter assy. and intend to block the forward gallery port and introduce a pressure thru the 1/8" IPT opening just behind the front plate,having removed the small allen head plug.I probably wont be successful but if this works will save me a mountain of labor.What is your take on this procedure.Am I correct in assuming front end must be moved forward? Thank for your assistance. Ol Chief

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