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TomTX

08-04-2004 18:34:01




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Looking for best grease for high wear items like pivot points in my front end loader and a small backhoe. Also, bearings in offset plow. Been using Mobil One synthetic grease, but would like to find out what is best. What do you use, and where can I get it? Thanks




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Robert

08-06-2004 08:09:56




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 Re: Grease Help in reply to TomTX, 08-04-2004 18:34:01  
I believe, that as important as anything else, it's the frequency of lubricating something, as opposed to how often it's done.
Following the equipment manufacturer's suggestions, is the best idea.
I've seen more "grease demonstrations" from various peddlers over the years, and they are impressive, but in the "real world", the bearings, etc, that have failed, failed due to a LACK of grease, rather than brand.
Just my .02 worth....

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TomTX

08-06-2004 04:24:30




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 Re: Grease Help in reply to TomTX, 08-04-2004 18:34:01  
Thanks to all. I really like the website, given below. I will use a 2nd grease gun with some of these so I can compare to the Mobil-1 used now. Again thanks.



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Farmer

08-06-2004 03:23:09




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 Re: Grease Help in reply to TomTX, 08-04-2004 18:34:01  
I use Swepco grease. Seen it at a farm show demonstration. It stays put under impact, stands up to heat, and will not wash away with water as many other Name Brand"s do. ( They have a number of specialty greases, I use the general purpose ). I was told that most greases are soap based, add water and it will just emulsify and wash away.

They put a good hand full of the swepco grease on the table and beat it with a rubber mallet, it does not splatter like the others. IT is very sticky. In hot weather I do not see the oil leak out of the tubes sitting on the shelf of my shop. So far Ihave been very impressed with all of the Swepco products.

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Wayne

08-05-2004 20:05:17




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 Re: Grease Help in reply to TomTX, 08-04-2004 18:34:01  
Try one of the greases made by Lubrication Engineers. I'll admit they are usually a little more expensive on most of their products than others but their stuff is well worth the extra expense. Actually with most of their stuff even though you pay a little more initially you come out money ahead in the end because their products outlast most others. Then factor in less wear for a given amount of product and your even further ahead when all is said and done. We started using LE greases and oils in our trucks and on our personal equipment after seeing the results one of our customers had with it in his quarry. He has been using their products in his equipment ( currently a D9G CAT, a 980 CAT loader, a Northwest80D w/front shovel attachment, etc) for over 30 years and has never had a lubrication related failure of any type. In fact he once said that being a independent, in a business that usually takes a major amount of capitol, often left him having to buy equipment that wasn't in the best of shape (ie-junk) but that no matter how "junky" it was when it came in it didn't get any junkier when he started using their stuff on it. Having worked on his stuff I can vouch for that. In the end though everybody always has their own personal prefference. Just don't let a few dollars here and there decide what products to use. I've seen the results of that at another BIG quarry when their "suits" started making the decisions, and it isn't a pretty site. Not to mention the few dollars they saved they spent about 100 times over paying us for repairs that came about way too premature. Here is a link to the LE site..... ....Just my .02

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Steve450

08-06-2004 07:18:32




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 Re: Grease Help in reply to Wayne, 08-05-2004 20:05:17  
That story about the 2 Quarrys hits right at home for me. I used to work for a small family run quarry that used "less than newer" equipment (junk). Now I work for the big quarry with brand new Cat everything. The difference is that, if you let a machine go a day w/out grease in the small quarry, the old man up in the office can hear the squeek and come down and ream your butt! In the large quarry It could squeek for days and the "suits" at corprate HQ (100 miles away) know nothing about it. Also, if you went looking for a tube of grease, and there was none at the Mom and pop quarry, the old man would drive to town and get a few cases. At the big quarry, the site leader has to fill out a form and make 3 phone calls to order it from our regular supplier, because we "get a better price there". In the mean time you wait 3 or 4 days without grease because HQ won't give you a PO to go to town and buy a tube. Big saveings huh?

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kyhayman

08-05-2004 11:09:46




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 Re: Grease Help in reply to TomTX, 08-04-2004 18:34:01  
I've been using Universal Co-op B660 for about 10 years. Really like it. When Southern States Co-op quit using UC I was one of the ones that raised a big fuss. They switched to Warren red (same as at Walmart). I tried it for a year, couldnt get it to flow and it wanted to clump when wet (balled up on your hands and came of with soap and water). The B660 (green) just about cant be washed off of you or your clothes, figured thats a good sign its staying where I want it. Sou Sts brought it back b/c of all the complaints. Only place I dont use it is something like a gear box, AGCO has an EP0 for cutter bars on discmowers. Seems to do better in gears boxes but is a lot more expensive.

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rustyfarmall

08-05-2004 07:39:16




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 Re: Grease Help in reply to TomTX, 08-04-2004 18:34:01  
I think any brand will work as good as the next. What you want to look for is a grease with an EP rating, stands for extreme pressure. Grease is just like motor oil, there are about 2 or 3 companies that make all of it. I do tend to shy away from the discount bargain basement brands. There has to be a reason those are so much less expensive.



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txblu

08-05-2004 09:37:17




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 Re: Grease Help in reply to rustyfarmall, 08-05-2004 07:39:16  
I'd say advertising. Guess what a 5 second commercial at the Superbowl costs Budweiser..... ..I can't count that high.

Mark



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txblu

08-05-2004 05:54:38




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 Re: Grease Help in reply to TomTX, 08-04-2004 18:34:01  
Might look up the service truck for a very large heavy equipment construction firm which buys the stuff by the 55 gallon drum. You'd think they'd use the best they could to maximize their equip up time and reduce interruptions caused by mechanical breakdown.

I know of several companies with a 26,000 lb (or so) bobtail truck that goes around all day to sites and services equip. And when he is finished, you can see grease easily from the joints. They make sure it's greased.

What I saw the most was white so it must have been a Lubriplate Brand product..... never figured out how they got their grease white.... whipping it?

I know you have to factor depreciation in and all that, but that only saves the taxes on the money you had to earn to buy the equipment in the first place.

Mark

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Dr.EVIL

08-05-2004 08:53:12




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 Re: Grease Help in reply to txblu, 08-05-2004 05:54:38  
I use Lubri-Plate. Great Stuff, I use Mobil I for some things too. Has a higher temp rating than even Lubri-Plate 1200-2. I used to use Mystic JT-6 sold locally by Farm & Fleet but high speed bearings like front wheel bearings & spindle bearings in lawn mowers would wear out in a couple years. I switched to Lubri-Plate about 16 yrs ago and haven't had a wheel bearing or spindle bearing problem since. The Mystic may work O-K in low speed bushings, I know Dad used it on His old IHC 2M-E corn picker for a few years. But I be Lubri-Plate or Mobil I would work well also.

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txblu

08-05-2004 09:39:16




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 Re: Grease Help in reply to Dr.EVIL, 08-05-2004 08:53:12  
That's interesting. I use JT-6 also; think it comes from a refinery in Okla. Have not had any failures; use it in lawnmower spindles, but not in front wheel bearings.

Figure out what makes Lubriplate white?

Thanks,

Mark



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Davis In SC

08-05-2004 10:20:03




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 Re: Grease Help in reply to txblu, 08-05-2004 09:39:16  
Not sure about it, but I think the white color of Lubriplate grease is from the Calcium Soap used in it.



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txblu

08-05-2004 11:44:49




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 Re: Grease Help in reply to Davis In SC, 08-05-2004 10:20:03  
Interesting. Since soap is what makes oil into grease, gotta have it...right!

So what do they have others don't? We always used Lubriplate in wheel bearings for boat trailers we dunked in salt water and it held up better than anything else. Course that was many years ago and lubes have come a long way since.

I like to use their 105 "Engine Rebuilding Grease" in gearboxes that leak. It's lighter than soap grease so it spreads better yet stays put much better than 90w mineral oil and resists leaking.

Mark

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TheRealRon

08-05-2004 04:09:04




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 Re: Grease Help in reply to TomTX, 08-04-2004 18:34:01  
I've used Mobil 1 USG exclusively for many years and would not consider switching.



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TimFL

08-04-2004 20:33:57




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 Re: Grease Help in reply to TomTX, 08-04-2004 18:34:01  
Just don't get a really good grease and then figure you can grease it less. I have seen people think that since they are spending $5-6 a tube on grease they can grease the machine less. It dont work that way. You can pump alot of grease for delaying a pin/bushing job by a thousand or two hours. Aint any grease worth anything until you pump it into the machine.



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Ben in KY

08-05-2004 10:33:48




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 Re: Grease Help in reply to TimFL, 08-04-2004 20:33:57  
You got that right Tim.
A cheap grease is better than an expensive grease if you apply it more often than the expensive grease.



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buickanddeere

08-05-2004 13:39:53




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 Re: Grease Help in reply to Ben in KY, 08-05-2004 10:33:48  
A cheap grease that isn't EP and just squeezes out or washes out is NO GREASE. Use the good stuff. There is no "one grease does all". Ask the manufacture what they have for your application.



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Leland

08-04-2004 19:27:55




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 Re: Grease Help in reply to TomTX, 08-04-2004 18:34:01  
Slick 50 also makes a good grease. or a better is synthetic marine grease by amsoil



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marlowe

08-04-2004 18:58:02




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 Re: Grease Help in reply to TomTX, 08-04-2004 18:34:01  
i don't think you will find any better. MOBIL ONE is the best i found for high dirt app.use it on all my ind.eq.



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