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FARMIN RED

08-03-2004 09:12:47




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I am new to painting and I am having some problems. Last night I was shooting some primer out of a gravity feed hvlp gun. the result on the piece that I was priming came out very gritty feeling. It seemed that I could not get enough paint to flow from the gun like I wanted to. I tried adjusting the air, paint flow, And the pressure to the gun. I ran about 35 pounds of pressure. It also seemed to have a very narrow paint fan. What am I doing wrong. Lots of help is needed.
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I don't know if this has anything to do with it but it was extremly humid last night. When I was painting about 9:30 p.m. due was starting to collect on the vehicles out in the driveway.

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Tom W

08-03-2004 18:42:23




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 Re: GRITTY PAINT in reply to FARMIN RED, 08-03-2004 09:12:47  
You didn't try to thin lacquer paint with enamel thinner, did you? That really makes a gritty mess.



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manny

08-03-2004 16:59:41




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 Re: GRITTY PAINT in reply to FARMIN RED, 08-03-2004 09:12:47  
Did you filter the thinner? Pigment not mixed good or poorly ground can case this to happen



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Jackrabbit

08-03-2004 16:08:42




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 Re: GRITTY PAINT in reply to FARMIN RED, 08-03-2004 09:12:47  
Your primer is too thick. Thin it down a bit so it goes on wet. It is starting to flash dry before it hits the surface. Thin it down as much as you need to get desired results. Don't worry about geting it to thin because the thinning agent flashes off fast. TRY IT. YOU'LL LIKE IT.



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TimFL

08-03-2004 12:59:48




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 Re: GRITTY PAINT in reply to FARMIN RED, 08-03-2004 09:12:47  
I have seen that also. A couple of times the primer took on the effect of dust. Seemed like the primer was flashing before it hit the surface. I have found that lowering the pressure on down will help. You also may want to try to thin the primer a little. If it is to thick it will not flow through the nozzle right and you pattern will be narrow. Just a thought. Painting is an expirament every time you pick up the gun. Remeber to sand between coats and try not to do it at night. At night you have moisture issues, bugs flying around your lights and a greater urgency to get done.

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jd-tractor

08-03-2004 12:31:02




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 Re: GRITTY PAINT in reply to FARMIN RED, 08-03-2004 09:12:47  
Sounds like your paint is not mixed properly,Too thick causing it to be too dry thus causing your problem.Most people painting tractors and equipment are afraid to put enough paint on,this is not like painting a car ,you need to put the paint on just to the point of sagging or running but not quite.



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Mike(Wi)

08-03-2004 11:43:34




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 Re: GRITTY PAINT in reply to FARMIN RED, 08-03-2004 09:12:47  
OK, I am no expert either, but have experienced something similar.

First, DO NOT paint when it is that humid. You cannot get good results--period.

Second, assuming that the paint was mixed properly, you should have turned the air down to no more than 20-22 PSI, and held the gun closer to the painting surface. Adjusting the spray at that point untill you were getting ideal coverage and texture.

Just my 2 cents. I have painted three cars now and seven tractors--with mixed results I admit.

It is a learning process, and every paint job I have done has come out different. I always seem to discover new mistakes to make.

Mike

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Mike(WI)

08-03-2004 12:04:48




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 Re: GRITTY PAINT in reply to Mike(Wi), 08-03-2004 11:43:34  
Forgot to mention, I think it seems gritty as it was going on too dry. That could be a result of improper mixture, holding the gun too far away from the surface, or too much air.

Humidity will do something kind of like that, but more like craters than grit.

If it is primer, then no harm done. I would wet sand the area with 200 grit, then 400, and recoat.

Should come out ok.



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rustyfarmall

08-03-2004 11:18:24




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 Re: GRITTY PAINT in reply to FARMIN RED, 08-03-2004 09:12:47  
How clean was your air supply? I am very inexperienced myself but I know compressed air can have lots of moisture in it which will really screw things up. Also rust particles from the inside of the compressor tank or even the lines themselves will give undesirable results.



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Mike(Wi)

08-03-2004 13:08:16




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 Re: GRITTY PAINT in reply to rustyfarmall, 08-03-2004 11:18:24  
I try to keep the air as clean as possible. There is a little filter at the air intake on the compressor. I change that usually before painting.

I do not have any rust inside the compressor--I just drain the tank after every use or every night if used a lot.

Bigger problem is dirt in the air around the gun. I rig up a makeshift paint booth that entirely encases what I am painting in plastic sheets. There is only enough room to get around it with the gun and keep the hoses off the object.

Keep everyone else out of there, and have make sure there is some kind of exhaust fan. Even with a respirator, it gets really hard to breathe, and I find myself rushing to get done every time.

Best of luck to you.

Mike

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FARMIN RED

08-03-2004 12:35:49




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 Re: GRITTY PAINT in reply to rustyfarmall, 08-03-2004 11:18:24  
MY AIR LINES ARE VERY DRY. I HAVE TWO DIFFERENT WATER TRAPS IN TWO DIFFERENT LOCATIONS.



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Nebraska Cowman

08-03-2004 10:21:31




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 Re: GRITTY PAINT in reply to FARMIN RED, 08-03-2004 09:12:47  
I borrowed one of those hvlp guns from a friend and was not impressed at all. Like you I thought the spray was too narrow, takes forever, and there is no overspray to get in and around hard to get at places. I guess they would do a nice enough job if you compleatly dissasembles everything. I like my cheapie squirtgun better.



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VADAVE

08-03-2004 09:16:08




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 Re: GRITTY PAINT in reply to FARMIN RED, 08-03-2004 09:12:47  
35 lbs seems high for HVLP system.
You really don't want water collecting on the surface, although I don't believe it will give a gritty feel. More like little craters.



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