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Tractor hours vs. OTR engine miles driven

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Ron

07-31-2004 05:00:50




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I was just trying to figure out how to equate engine hours to miles driven. My tractor's PTO speed is 2,200 engine rpm; at 2,200 rpm my truck, for example, is going 65 mph. So 1,000 hours in the truck is 65,000 miles... 10,000 hours in the tractor would then equate to 650,000 miles, that is, the same number of engine revolutions that would produce 650,000 miles in the truck would also occur in the tractor at 10,000 hours.

I know I'm comparing apples to oranges here but does anyone have a better formula for this or a different way to try to equate the two?

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CJ

07-31-2004 16:33:30




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 Re: Tractor hours vs. OTR engine miles driven in reply to Ron, 07-31-2004 05:00:50  
My pu has an hour meter in it, i put it on it the day after i bought the pu new. It has 75,000 miles on it now, and just turned over 2,000 hours.. When i was traveling a lot on trips hauling loads it still never averaged much over 45 mph. CJ



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K C in Ia

08-02-2004 15:34:31




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 Re: Tractor hours vs. OTR engine miles driven in reply to CJ, 07-31-2004 16:33:30  
I'm in agreement with CJ, the 3/4 ton chevy I use at work has an hour meter in it. At 60,000 miles & 1,331 hours this average into being 45-47 miles per hour of engine operation. My closest stop when I leave in the morning is 35 miles away, furthest is just over 200, most of it is 2 lane at 55-60 mph. Yes legal is 55 mph.



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markct

07-31-2004 14:33:04




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 for what its worth in reply to Ron, 07-31-2004 05:00:50  
at work we have a medium duty IH box truck that has and hour meter as well as the usualy odometer, the truck is only a few years old and has a pretty good mix of highway driving and secondary roads delivering stuff, i noticed recently it had just about 1,000 hours, and the truck has 42,000 miles on it, not a direct scientific number, but just a real life tidbit of info



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Tommy D6-8U

07-31-2004 13:00:59




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 Re: Tractor hours vs. OTR engine miles driven in reply to Ron, 07-31-2004 05:00:50  
I kinda' equate 100,000 miles on a vehicle to about 5-6000 hours on a tractor or other HD engine application. I think for the "orange and apple scenario" those figures could be considered benchmarks so to speak. At that point most anything could fail or they could run on a while longer. These days, 100,000 miles on a vehicle that is reasonably well maintained is really not a lot of wear and tear from my experiences. I used to work at a MF dealership in the early eighties and 5,000 hours on an ag tractor was about average; some could go longer and some puked before then. It depended a lot of course on maintenance. For what it's worth! A very interesting discussion!!!

Tommy

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redrock

07-31-2004 11:20:30




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 Re: Tractor hours vs. OTR engine miles driven in reply to Ron, 07-31-2004 05:00:50  
I maintain two prime power generators (JD 4cyl turbo) and use 40 mph as a figure for estimating equivlant miles. Depending on varying conditions they run between 10k and 15k between in frame OH (pistons,liners and valve jobs) generaly rebuild water pump in between. They now have about 35k hours total time since new in 1996.



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Cliff Neubauer

07-31-2004 10:36:26




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 Re: Tractor hours vs. OTR engine miles driven in reply to Ron, 07-31-2004 05:00:50  
I know Cummin's uses an average of 50 miles per hour when comparing truck engines to tractor engines. There is also a formula they use because of different loads that goes something like; A tractor uses 90% of it's power 60% of the time while a truck uses 60% of it's power 60% of the time and a car uses 30% of it's power 60% of the time.



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paul

07-31-2004 08:18:43




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 Re: Tractor hours vs. OTR engine miles driven in reply to Ron, 07-31-2004 05:00:50  
Seems a car engine would always start smoking at 100-120,000 miles. They've gotten a little better of late.

Seems a tractor engine starts to smoke about 5-6,000 hours.

Now, some go double that, and some don't make it 30,000 miles/ 2000 hours, but on average.....

--->Paul



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Wayne

07-31-2004 05:52:03




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 Re: Tractor hours vs. OTR engine miles driven in reply to Ron, 07-31-2004 05:00:50  
I have worked and went to school for John Deere for years and they told us it is One hour to 40 miles. So 1000 hours = 40,000 miles.



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Ron

07-31-2004 06:24:01




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 Re: Tractor hours vs. OTR engine miles driven in reply to Wayne, 07-31-2004 05:52:03  
That's on an "engine wear" basis, then?



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Wayne

07-31-2004 11:29:58




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 Re: Tractor hours vs. OTR engine miles driven in reply to Ron, 07-31-2004 06:24:01  
John Deere says for instance if you have say a 4430 with 1000 hours on it the whole tractor has the same as 40,000 miles wear on it. It does not pertain to just the engine per say, the tractor in general.



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George

07-31-2004 05:18:09




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 Re: Tractor hours vs. OTR engine miles driven in reply to Ron, 07-31-2004 05:00:50  
I think your 65 MPH average is high for your truck. Unless you do nothing bu Intersdtate driving, I feel a 45 or 50 MPH would be a better number.



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txblu

08-01-2004 07:15:57




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 Re: Tractor hours vs. OTR engine miles driven in reply to George, 07-31-2004 05:18:09  
I use 50 and equate as you did.

Mark



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buickanddeere

07-31-2004 08:28:05




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 Re: Tractor hours vs. OTR engine miles driven in reply to George, 07-31-2004 05:18:09  
I agree. According to my trucks dash computer, it's averaged 39 mph over the past 35,000miles.



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rustyfarmall

07-31-2004 05:36:47




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 Re: Tractor hours vs. OTR engine miles driven in reply to George, 07-31-2004 05:18:09  
George, I agree with you, when I was on the road quite a few years ago, I always figured 50 mph as an average speed.



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Ron

07-31-2004 05:42:12




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 Re: Tractor hours vs. OTR engine miles driven in reply to rustyfarmall, 07-31-2004 05:36:47  
Average speed isn't useful as the engine turns 2,200 rpm at 65 mph... the tractor turns 2,200 rpm... I'm trying to equate the actual number of accumulated engine revolutions for both uses.



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Neil

07-31-2004 08:30:07




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 Re: Tractor hours vs. OTR engine miles driven in reply to Ron, 07-31-2004 05:42:12  
You don't spend all of your time in the truck in high gear, though.



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UFO Man

07-31-2004 06:32:13




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 Re: Tractor hours vs. OTR engine miles driven in reply to Ron, 07-31-2004 05:42:12  
How about this?

Open road driving is about 50 miles per hour average, so that 100 hours equals 5000 miles. Oil changes and other maintenance can be done at 5000 mile intervals and save the cost of lubricants and labor.

City driving is about 20 to 30 miles per hour average, so that 100 hours equals 2000 to 3000 miles. Oil changes have to be made at the 2-3000 mile intervals to adequately protect the motor from the dirt and other contaminates that the motor oil is carrying.

The new motor oils do not lose viscosity like the oils of 20 years ago, but there is so much dirt and contaminates in the oil. Sending the oil fumes back into the combustion chambers, as is done on car and truck motors, will cause these contaminates to gunk up the sensors and intake systems.

Passenger car and truck engine maintenance schedules don't necessarily apply to tractor usage.

For tractors, 50 to 100 hours is a good measure of when to change the oil depending on the usage that the tractor is enduring. Heavy pulling in dusty conditions, like plowing or field conditioning may necessitate an earlier oil change. Lighter work in cleaner conditions would allow for oil changes at the 100 hour mark.

But that isn't the only factors. Oil that sits in an idle tractor can be contaminated by water from condensation. I've seen new oil turn into something like chocolate milk in a tractor that was stored for a year. Running the tractor with that in it would have been disastrous.

My tractors work on the weekend, and not every one. The oil gets changed every 50 hours or 3 months, depending on frequency of use.

Hope this helps.

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