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O/T Is it a weed or not

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john in la

07-21-2004 16:22:48




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Do not answer to you read this.

Milkweed
As far as I know this is a weed that only is good for home owners that like the butterflies it attracts. I know many a person that has tried to kill this out of their hay fields with limited success.

Then on the radio today I hear that farmers in ILL are planting and harvesting milkweed as a crop. They are selling it to pillow manufactures that are using it as a non allergenic pillow filling.

Could this be the same gene of milkweed we are killing? So don't kill that milkweed; harvest it.

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txblu

07-22-2004 05:38:05




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 Re: O/T Is it a weed or not in reply to john in la, 07-21-2004 16:22:48  
For those of us overwhelmed with it, does anyone have any earthly way of ridding your hayfield of this nuisance (that you can get without a state license) that would kill everything (including it'self) from reseeding if allowed to go wild?

Kid you not, some fields around my area are so thick that you can't walk without stepping on 6.

Mark

Mark



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paul

07-22-2004 11:23:45




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 Re: Re: O/T Is it a weed or not in reply to txblu, 07-22-2004 05:38:05  
Ridding yourself of it - well, the seed is viable in the soil for 30-50 years, so you will not be _rid_ of it. But in grass crops (including corn) there are many products that really take it down. Banvel/ Clarity does it for me - N and a crop oil sure help, and hit them younger rather than when they are older - most broadleaves you need to spray the very crown, just hitting lower leaves only burns off those leaves but the stem & plant will struggle through. 2,4D works, not as well, but for cheaper. Many other broadleaf killers will. These products do not need a licence in _my_ state, I won't speak for yours.

In a broadleaf or legume crop, the choices are bit more difficult. Several good ones, but gets real specific as to timing & which product with which addtives.

Are these a biannual or a perannual, I forget, but either way they store food in their root system, so killing off the top doesn't mean it's dead - it takes several years of working at it to be rid of 95% of them, and then you need to keep working on the 5% or they will come right back in.

Roundup does work on them, but if a large plant you need a heck of a rate & it probably won't seep into the root system at that stage, so you will need to repeat often.

--->Paul

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txblu

07-23-2004 05:50:31




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 Re: Re: Re: O/T Is it a weed or not in reply to paul, 07-22-2004 11:23:45  
Thanks,

2-4D would be my herbicide of choice. Maybe just increase the application rate.

Mark



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paul

07-21-2004 21:16:19




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 Re: O/T Is it a weed or not in reply to john in la, 07-21-2004 16:22:48  
When I'm growing soybeans, one of my biggest weeds is corn....

One year a crop, next year a weed.

The oil & seed in milkweed has a lot of potential, and has been used in the past.

However, it is a noxious weed in my county, technically it would be illegal to 'seed' it as some have mentioned. You could grow it for a crop, but you must control all seeds, harvest before it reseeds itself, etc.

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Bob

07-21-2004 16:31:40




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 Re: O/T Is it a weed or not in reply to john in la, 07-21-2004 16:22:48  
It is a weed as far as I am concerned. I have heard that it was nearly wiped out during WWII. It seems that the companies that made life preservers for the military used milkweed pods for stuffing. School kids would harvest the pods and sell them to said companies. After 4 or 5 years of not reseeding, there wasn't much milkweed left.



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txblu

07-22-2004 05:33:38




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 Re: Re: O/T Is it a weed or not in reply to Bob, 07-21-2004 16:31:40  
.....wasn't much left....halleluya.



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Bernie in MA

07-21-2004 17:59:09




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 Re: Re: O/T Is it a weed or not in reply to Bob, 07-21-2004 16:31:40  
I remember bringing onion bags full of milkweed pods to school.



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greenbeanman in Kansas

07-21-2004 17:04:49




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 Re: Re: O/T Is it a weed or not in reply to Bob, 07-21-2004 16:31:40  
I've always heard that the defination of "weed" is a misplaced plant.

Therefore in the farmer's fields they would not be a weed, but surely would be in your crop field.

I scatter the seed from a few each year as I have an area that is in a migratory path for butterflies.

I also harvest extra seed pods and give them away to others that HAVE A RURAL PLACE of their own and want to provide munchies for butterflies.

There are a number of different species of the generic "milkweed" plant. A copy of "Weeds of the West" can be obtained from your local library through Inter-Library Loan for you to peruse. It shows several of the varities.

A synthetic rubber from the milkweed sap was also under development during the war years. I suspect that were George Washington Carver be alive and set to the task of utilizing the plant it would no longer remain a weed.

Now where is that hemp plant when I need a rope to tie a bundle of milkweed together?

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sammy rhe RED

07-21-2004 19:15:43




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 Re: Re: Re: O/T Is it a weed or not in reply to greenbeanman in Kansas, 07-21-2004 17:04:49  
greenbeanman in Kansas said: "Now where is that hemp plant when I need a rope to tie a bundle of milkweed together?"

Did you smoke that "Hemp" plant ? ;o]



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greenbeanman in KS

07-22-2004 12:30:53




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: O/T Is it a weed or not in reply to sammy rhe RED, 07-21-2004 19:15:43  
Nope! It is my understanding that they are different plants though closely related.

I see quite a bit of marijuana in the county road ditches. I've not heard of it being harvested, so assume that it is the fiber hemp rather than the get high kind.



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