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Getting rid of poison ivey/ poison oak??

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cheap_dave

07-19-2004 18:10:47




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I grows averywhere up here in New England, any good "cheap" home remidy tricks to getting rid of it for good, not from my skin but from my yard.

Cheap_Dave




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UFO Man

07-21-2004 17:34:01




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 Re: Getting rid of poison ivey/ poison oak?? in reply to cheap_dave, 07-19-2004 18:10:47  
Dave, there was an episode on "Ask This Old House" just the other day. If you cannot use a systemic poison, like "BrushBGone", you have to tear it out. I agree on the method that they used, it is the only way that I have ever been able to control this vine. We have horses and cannot use herbicides.

PULL it up by the roots, double bag it and send it to the land fill. Mulch 6 inched deep over the area with wood mulch. The roots left in the ground will not be able to send up vine far enough through the mulch to get started and will die.

When you pull it, wear long sleeve heavy shirt with gloves, taped where the shirt and gloves meet. Tape your jeans to your boots at the cuff. Wear goggles, poison ivy in the eyes must be miserable.

Wash your clothes with an oil cutting detergent or double bag them and send them to the land fill. Wash any exposed skin and any skin that touched the outside of your clothes with an oil cutting detergent or soap and COLD water. Warm water opens your pores and the ivy oil will get into your skin.

This is hard work, but pays off. Cutting it only encourages the growth.

Luckily, neither me or my wife are allergic to this vine, but I don't like it on the property. I spent the first five years pulling gobs of it up by the roots. Since then, there has been little volunteer growth, which gets yanked out by the root.

Good Luck, UFO Man

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bullrunner

07-20-2004 21:10:06




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 Re: Getting rid of poison ivey/ poison oak?? in reply to cheap_dave, 07-19-2004 18:10:47  
We have had great success by pulling or cutting the plant then pouring hot vinegar on the roots. Make sure you are well protected and remeber that that the oil can remain on your clothes or gloves what ever for a very long time. So clean everything ASAP even your boots. Never burn the ivy the oil can travel in the smoke and you don't need to inhale that. Good luck.



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Will

07-20-2004 12:37:18




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 Re: Getting rid of poison ivey/ poison oak?? in reply to cheap_dave, 07-19-2004 18:10:47  
Even if you went to the effort and expense of killing every bit of poison ivy on your place this year more would be back next. It produces berries birds love to eat (guess they're immune) and the birds reseed it wherever birds go. You can control it, using either roundup, 24D, or goats as suggested below, but you will never eliminate it. Believe me, I've tried.



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Ed

07-20-2004 10:09:08




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 Re: Getting rid of poison ivey/ poison oak?? in reply to cheap_dave, 07-19-2004 18:10:47  
24D is probably the most effective and least harmful approach so long as your far, far, far away from grape vinyards. 24d is systemic and will kill the roots

Round-up and equivlants will also kill the ivy but at higher concentrations. It's also systemic and will kill the roots.

Total veg killer will require a more active ingrediant - higher concentration to kill the ivy. I'm not sure it will get to the roots and kill it for good.

Vinagar, bleach, Gas, Diesel, etc. will brown it and you think you've got it, but will be back soon.

Water softner salt I guess is good if you only want to plant beach grass in that area from application on. At the concentration you'll need to kill the ivy it will kill everything else for a long time.

I'd go with a more selective weed killer at lower rates to minumize ground contamination and get the job done. I'd go with 24D if far away from vinyards or use Roundup (and equivlants).

Follow the label for your area and situation

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Wayne

07-20-2004 06:50:31




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 Re: Getting rid of poison ivey/ poison oak?? in reply to cheap_dave, 07-19-2004 18:10:47  
Go to your hardware store or FS plant and get some 24D and mix it up acording to the directions and it will take care of all your broad leaf that it contacts, including the ivy's.



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Ron

07-20-2004 03:19:40




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 Re: Getting rid of poison ivey/ poison oak?? in reply to cheap_dave, 07-19-2004 18:10:47  
Well, you didn't say how much you have. The rare plant can be killed with water softener salt pellets without poisoning the rest of your yard. A handful of pellets is plenty.

But if you have a lot of it, why not do what I do? I just leave it be. Learn to recognize it and if you have to walk through it, wear long pants.



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Leland

07-19-2004 22:35:27




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 Re: Getting rid of poison ivey/ poison oak?? in reply to cheap_dave, 07-19-2004 18:10:47  
Buy TOTAL VEGATION KILLER about $20 a quart and will kill up to a year try it you will like it



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lee

07-19-2004 20:49:04




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 Re: Getting rid of poison ivey/ poison oak?? in reply to cheap_dave, 07-19-2004 18:10:47  
use straight vinegar in a sprayer at least 5% or better it knocks back bindweed!



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Raleigh

07-19-2004 20:42:56




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 Re: Getting rid of poison ivey/ poison oak?? in reply to cheap_dave, 07-19-2004 18:10:47  
I use a broadleaf herbicide called Crossbow. It doesn't kill grass but will stop the poison oak. If it's real thick you may have to use a second application to get the leaves you missed the first time. I've used Crossbow for about 10 years now on cutover land that's been cleared for pasture. It's a great product.

Weathermax Roundup mixed 1 qt. per 15 gal. of water will work well also. But it also kills everything that it's sprayed on. It's water proof and don't have to worry with rain washing it off. It's safer to use also. Again it may need a second application depending on how thick poison oak is.

Another is Spike. It's in the pellet form and kills the soil for about 5 years. You have to be careful with it around trees that you want to keep. If the roots of a tree are growing where you use Spike it can kill it too. Even if it's 50 feet away.

Hope this helps and I'm sure there are other herbicides out there that will do the job. These are just some I've used.

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Ron 1456

07-19-2004 20:38:00




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 Re: Getting rid of poison ivey/ poison oak?? in reply to cheap_dave, 07-19-2004 18:10:47  
I use Tordon RTU. The same stuff you use to treat tree stumps to prevent regrowth. Just get some on the leaves and the poison ivy or oak will die. Becareful where you use Tordon because it will last for 3 years in the soil.



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farmall 340

07-19-2004 20:02:58




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 Re: Getting rid of poison ivey/ poison oak?? in reply to cheap_dave, 07-19-2004 18:10:47  
I used water softener salt. Just spread it on the ground around the base of the ivy and in a week or so it will die and turn brown



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paul

07-19-2004 19:31:43




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 Re: Getting rid of poison ivey/ poison oak?? in reply to cheap_dave, 07-19-2004 18:10:47  
Sorry I can't help, but do not burn it. Smoke will kill you.....

--->Paul



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p-c-y

07-19-2004 19:06:51




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 Re: Getting rid of poison ivey/ poison oak?? in reply to cheap_dave, 07-19-2004 18:10:47  
we tie goats in our fence row 1 goat will clean about 20 feet a day, since we started this i have found stuff in fence rows i lost 20 years ago, they seem to love poision ive and multi flore roses, we put 15 goats out on dog chains every mourning and bring them in at nite



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Steve (Magnolia, TX)

07-20-2004 07:42:56




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 Re: Re: Getting rid of poison ivey/ poison oak?? in reply to p-c-y, 07-19-2004 19:06:51  
There's an added benefit to the goats...

When I was a kid I'd catch poison ivy from 50', if the wind was right. We got a couple of dairy goats about the time I turned 12 (or so) and they ate up every stick of poison ivy that they could find (along with the multi-flora roses and honeysuckle, etc.) and we drank the milk. Apparently there was just enough poison ivy toxin in the milk to create an immunity. I haven't had poison ivy since then (I'm 37 now) and I can pull it out with my bare hands....

Steve

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p--c--y

07-20-2004 09:40:36




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 Re: Re: Re: Getting rid of poison ivey/ poison oak in reply to Steve (Magnolia, TX), 07-20-2004 07:42:56  
not to many years ago i hated goats, or so i thought, a neighbor give my wife a oberhashi buck babby 2 years ago, after about 8 months she wanted me to pick her up a couple nannys, i bought a toggenburg and a nubian , both big babbys , we really enjoy them we now have 18 nannys , 4 are boer i just bought a 250 lb boar buck a real dandy and his yearling son the big ones name is boer dozer and the little one is crawler,my fence rows are the cleanest from when dad bought the place in 1950

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