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Hauling Scams?

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JHesler

06-14-2004 15:47:40




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I posted a message in Hauling Schedules and got several good replies, it's a great service. Two of the replies that I got have me concerned though. Strange circumstances and too good to be true rates. Has anyone ever heard of one of these guys taking off with your equipment never to be seen again? I know I have the license plate # and other info and I'm sure that 99% are honest and want to help for a few bucks but I'd hate to lose my backhoe.

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Me

06-14-2004 21:55:18




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 Re: Hauling Scams? in reply to JHesler, 06-14-2004 15:47:40  
I thought the whole idea of the hauling schedule was to get cheap rates from non-commercial haulers looking for mutual benefits???.....I only charge the IRS rate. It pays for my fuel and hotel rooms.



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john in la

06-15-2004 03:41:21




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 Re: Re: Hauling Scams? in reply to Me, 06-14-2004 21:55:18  
In a perfect world you would be correct. And by word of mouth you may still get some hauls. But look at it from the other side.
The hauling schedule is full of full time haulers. Cargo theft is a reality. The owner is trusting you (that he has never met before) with thousands of his hard earned green backs. What if some thing happens. Your fault; some one else’s fault; is your insurance going to cover it. Most have never even heard of cargo insurance.
Sorry this is not the 40's when a hand shake meant something and you could leave your door unlocked.
Plus it is against the law to haul for compensation and not be licensed by the DOT. How is that fair to those that do follow the rules and spend money to get the proper permits. Plus if you are caught by the DOT (very unlikely if you have a small truck) hauling some one else’s stuff you truck and CARGO (my tractor) will be impounded.

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Dick2

06-14-2004 17:17:30




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 Re: Hauling Scams? in reply to JHesler, 06-14-2004 15:47:40  
I used to see from my office window semi-trailer loads of used tractors heading for the border. Often wondered if those tractors were bought and paid for or just "acquired". Once they get across the border, nobody is ever going to find them again. Had a strange conversation once with a fellow who married a girl from Columbia who's family were farmers. They wanted parts for Massey Fergusons, but wouldn't give me serial numbers of the units. Made me real suspicious.

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john in la

06-14-2004 16:50:29




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 Re: Hauling Scams? in reply to JHesler, 06-14-2004 15:47:40  
We talked about this a few months ago. It you would like to read that post look Here

Do not know what end you are on but..... .

The best advise I can give you is to make sure the hauler has cargo insurance. This is what will cover your tractor. His truck insurance will not cover your tractor. Make sure you check his insurance out.
Get a copy of the CDL and truck registration and make sure it matches the person picking up your tractor if you are on receiving end. Ask shipper to look at it when being picked up and confirm it is same as the copy you have.
Have the driver sign a BOL when picking up the tractor. He gets two copies and shipper gets one. If tractor never arrives you have his insurance info and documentation that he picked up tractor. His insurance would then have to prove it was in fact delivered. This is why driver gets two copies. When he delivers tractor you would sign for; giving him one copy and you one copy. Their is a paper trail this way so incase you have to make a claim you have your I's dotted.

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rustyfarmall

06-14-2004 15:59:53




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 Re: Hauling Scams? in reply to JHesler, 06-14-2004 15:47:40  
Unless you personally know the guy you need to have him show you his D.O.T. permit number and proof of commercial insurance. Both of these are required by law before anyone can legally haul for hire. Actually, the D.O.T. numbers are to be displayed on the side of the truck.



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