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Ken

05-07-2004 22:15:57




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What is the source of the rule-Pre 1960 Tractors only-come from? This is mentioned in many show annoucements.




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Ken

05-08-2004 18:21:23




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 Re: Tractor Show Rules in reply to Ken, 05-07-2004 22:15:57  
Thanks for the input. I was really thinking of display and not pulling. Your comments make sense. I just remember pre 1960 being the standard for about 20 years but maybe it was mostly a John Deere idea. I have a early John Deere 2010 and a 1958 Ford 801 but have been discouraged from showing because of the pre 1960 wording in several tractor show brochures.



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wolfy

05-08-2004 15:05:04




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 Re: Tractor Show Rules in reply to Ken, 05-07-2004 22:15:57  
Around here (southwest PA) pre 1958 is the cut off. The thinking is to keep 460-560's out. It's too easy to get lots of power out of them. Kind of makes you chuckle, a late 620 can't pull but a neighbors 620 can!



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buickanddeere

05-08-2004 14:31:35




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 Re: Tractor Show Rules in reply to Ken, 05-07-2004 22:15:57  
Official end of Deere two cylinder production for North American agricultural production year is 1960,maybe why.



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havvey

05-08-2004 12:50:18




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 Re: Tractor Show Rules in reply to Ken, 05-07-2004 22:15:57  
some clubs also have a class for pre 1940 etc seems to keep the real old machines evenly matched



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Hugh MacKay

05-08-2004 08:33:09




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 Re: Tractor Show Rules in reply to Ken, 05-07-2004 22:15:57  
Ken: I think those aprox. 1960 rules have moved around a bit, and there are several reasons. Most tractors built since the early to mid 1960s have all the modern day production features as standard equipment. Items like live PTO, draft controlled 3 point hitch, power steering, cab friendly, two or more power shifts, etc. thus a lot of those tractors are still on commercial farms.

Tractor styling by all companies changed radically in the early 1960s. Gone were the rounded hoods with bullet noses. Gone were the seats hanging over the drawbar. Diesels came on quite heavy by that time and they are a bit rich for a lot of hobbiests. I farmed most of my life with diesels, very efficient source of power. Today I just have three little gassers. Diesels can take a big chunk out of your pocket book when you step up to the parts counter. A lot of these clubs doing shows want to keep this hobby a low budget item.

Horsepower also took significant jumps in the 60s, by keeping it pre 1960s antique pulls get away with much lighter equipment. I don't think this is a very big factor as many of those sleds are very adjustable.

I don't think there is any one factor for this. I think 1960 has been the measure for a long time, even as far back as the mid 80s. You talk with old car and truck guys and most will tell you 25 years and it antique. They however don't have the longeviety of tractors or at least not in numbers.

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pg

05-08-2004 01:00:37




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 Re: Tractor Show Rules in reply to Ken, 05-07-2004 22:15:57  
some people consider about 1961 to be the cut off point fot "antique" tractors. pg



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