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Andy in PA

04-30-2004 11:11:05

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I found this site hoping to get some help with a To-30 that I am trying to get running. The tractor has sat in a barn for about three years without running because it was just to much for my grandfather to handle any more. now that he has passed away I would really like to get it running again before it rots away. when i first started looking at it I thought it was siezed but to my surprise I was able to tturn it over fairly easy. I have put new plugs,wires, condenssor, points, belts,and hoses. every thing seems to be pretty good on it but it just will not start. It has a eightV bat. in it, would it hurt any thing but the points to put a 12V in it? it turns over fine but just will not fire. Any help that you guys might have would be more than appreciated. Happy turkey hunting and thanks, ANDY

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Andy in PA

05-05-2004 09:16:53

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Re: To-30 help in reply to Andy in PA, 04-30-2004 11:11:05

Thanks alot for the great advise guys I really appreciate it. I did drain all the old gas and somewhat cleaned the carb. I guess I should do a better job at cleaning the carb. I will definately let u all know how the project is coming along.

for the fellow Pa guys I am from Columbia Co., just outside of Bloomsburg.

thanks again

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Vern-MI

04-30-2004 16:39:45

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Re: To-30 help in reply to Andy in PA, 04-30-2004 11:11:05

Spark
Spark timing
Air
Fuel
Compression

You said it turns over fine. Does it appear to have compression when you are cranking it? Maybe some of the valves are hanging open in which case it will not start. Do you have a compression test gage? Wouldn't hurt to check it for compression. If there is compression then you know that the valves and rings are working properly.

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Dieselrider

04-30-2004 14:26:27

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Re: To-30 help in reply to Andy in PA, 04-30-2004 11:11:05

What part of PA are you from? I'm in southern Clearfield county about five miles off route 53.

Anyway back to your problem. Toolman is right, the gas being that old is probably not very good and won't burn very well. You could try just a small shot of starting fluid into the air intake while cranking the engine. If it doesn't fire then it's probably spark related, if it does start and run for a couple seconds until the either is gone then quits- it's not getting fuel. Changing the gas and cleaning out the carb. should do the trick. I probably would not change the battery size if it cranks ok. Once the fuel system is clean it should fire pretty quick. Good luck.

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RAB

04-30-2004 13:29:37

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Re: To-30 help in reply to Andy in PA, 04-30-2004 11:11:05

For a twelve volt battery you would need a 12v generator/regulator, bulbs and coil. The points and condensor are not voltage dependant. The starter motor would spin much faster, but might burn out if operated for long periods while trying to start it.
Engine needs only a good spark (at the right time), fuel supplied to the cylinders (in the right amount) and some compression, to get it running.
You say you changed the points, but have not said whether you have a spark, and it may be a few degrees out on timing and needs checking and resetting as necessary.
The gas almost certainly needs changing, as already posted, and you may need to check the carburettor if fuel was left in when it was last run - todays fuels are not so easy on the carb internals as the old formulations and the float and jets could be coated in cr*p.
I would be inclined to remove the plugs and spin the engine over a few times after squirting in enough oil to lubricate the bores and improve the compression. Be careful that the plugs do not get fouled by excess oil.
You can fairly easily check whether fuel is getting to the cylinders - remove a plug after spinning engine (with choke applied) and you should see wet plug electrodes. Let us know how you get on or post again with more info if it still won't start.
Make sure you have oil pressure at start up - oh and one other thing - did you put the plug leads back on exactly where they came off or as per the instruction manual? Sometimes distributors can be fitted wrong and leads moved round to compensate (I really don't worry if my mags are 180 degrees out, for instance!)
Have fun and be safe, regards, RAB

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toolman

04-30-2004 11:59:22

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Re: To-30 help in reply to Andy in PA, 04-30-2004 11:11:05

if it sat for three years you might want to try changing the gas.might help best of luck.

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Ray,IN

04-30-2004 20:23:54

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Re: Re: To-30 help in reply to toolman, 04-30-2004 11:59:22

I too recommend draining all gas from the fuel system and replacing with fresh gas. "Modern" gas has a shelf life of about 30 days before beginning to detiorate according to the refinery data. The 6V system will perform just as well as a 12V system, assuming proper maintence is performed, and parts used, per mfgrs schedule. You've already stated the starting circuit is working well, this indicates either the secondary electrical circuit,stuck valves, and/or fuel system are the problem. It's easy to determine if the spark plugs are firing. Remove a plug, reconnect the wire and lay the plug on a bare metal spot on the block. Crank the starter and observe the plug for a fat, blue spark. The suggestion to run a compression check is important to determine if there is a compression leak [stuck valve(s)], and/or stuck rings. Keep us informed of your progress if you wish.

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