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Rice Special, Rice Tires, Rice Whatevers ???

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RZ(Wa)

03-25-2004 08:52:03




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Every once in awhile I hear of a "tractor with rice tires", or of tractor model model being a "Rice Special". I know at times I'm not a great one for seeing detail or differences on things until they are pointed out, but what is the reference to Rice ? Is it some sort of waterproofing, clearance, or does it (they) not collect mud and guck?




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RZ(Wa)

03-25-2004 15:04:57




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 Re: Rice Special, Rice Tires, Rice Whatevers ??? in reply to RZ(Wa), 03-25-2004 08:52:03  
Thank you everyone. All of the info y'all sent has lessened the anxiety of not knowing diddly-squat. We don't grow much, if any, rice in the northwest and I haven't seen how it is grown or the equipment used, except in pictures and such with with some asian farmer behind a water buffalo (suppose I should get out more, eh ??). Anyway, thanks again, it is appreciated.
RZ(Wa)



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jls

03-25-2004 20:47:34




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 Re: Re: Rice Special, Rice Tires, Rice Whatevers ? in reply to RZ(Wa), 03-25-2004 15:04:57  
one more story. I've got a grey market Yanmar 4X4 with rice tires and I have never been stuck! pushed soup over the front axle cleaning ditches with a 6' back blade on a 20 hp tractor. driving posts, if I can walk it wearing knee boots I can get that little tractor into it. the lugs are so big they must flex just a little and you can hear them make sucking sounds.



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rice expert

03-25-2004 11:33:50




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 Re: Rice Special, Rice Tires, Rice Whatevers ??? in reply to RZ(Wa), 03-25-2004 08:52:03  
Rice special tractors were built with subtle differences from the regular standard, or wheatland models, so that farmers could work in the standing water and mud required to grow rice. Most recognizable are the large drive tires, usually wide R-2's. The single rib front tires are used to ease steering through the mud as they shed mud and water rather than collecting it between the ribs and becoming slick. Some models might have wider fenders to protect the operator on the platform from slinging mud . Most will have some sort of guards to protect the brakes and axle bearings from the mud and water as well. Rice tractors are always a good idea for the collector looking for good investments because fewer were made and they stand out at tractor shows from ordinary standard tread tractors. The problem with them is, due to the nature of the conditions they worked in, most are badly deteriorated due to rust and hard use. I have a Case LA Rice Special that I am restoring with single-rib fronts and 23.1-26 R-2 rears.

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buickanddeere

03-25-2004 11:10:02




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 Re: Rice Special, Rice Tires, Rice Whatevers ??? in reply to RZ(Wa), 03-25-2004 08:52:03  
R-2 lug pattern on the back which are nearly 3" tall instead of 1-1/2 with R-1 lugs. Front tires are "rice rudders" with a single center rib instead of three ribs. Two cylinder Deeres and new Generation were/are commom in the rice bogs. D's just eliminated the brake alltogether. The others used mud guards around the break drums etc.



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Nebraska Cowman

03-25-2004 10:32:54




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 Re: Rice Special, Rice Tires, Rice Whatevers ??? in reply to RZ(Wa), 03-25-2004 08:52:03  
rice tires have deeper lugs, yes, for mud. I know one man showed me his WD9 International that he said was a "Rice Special" It had a hand clutch and some other differences that I can't remember. I susspect JD and others made rice specials too.



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john

03-25-2004 10:48:27




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 Re: Re: Rice Special, Rice Tires, Rice Whatevers ? in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 03-25-2004 10:32:54  
Yes all types of different set ups out there. Some of these guys change that to most plant with a airplane. Never heard of planting seed with a airplane before but they do.



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Funny Thing

03-25-2004 10:23:19




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 Re: Rice Special, Rice Tires, Rice Whatevers ??? in reply to RZ(Wa), 03-25-2004 08:52:03  
For some strange reason, I don't ever remember seeing farm people working the rice fields in Asia wearing "rice footwear", they must sink into the mud a lot I guess and maybe even get stuck.



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JOHN (LA)

03-25-2004 10:22:34




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 Re: Rice Special, Rice Tires, Rice Whatevers ??? in reply to RZ(Wa), 03-25-2004 08:52:03  
Well not being a rice farmer I may also be way off but I would say traction. As Paul said the lugs are much bigger and if you ever seen these guys in the field you would see what I mean. They take a tractor in places I would not go with a dozer. The combine has extra wide tires for flotation. Remember they are working in a pond with levees all around. Yes they drain it before entering but the bottom seems to never dry so its a hard muddy pull at some times of the year.
They also have a boat with paddle wheel motor on it for harvesting crawfish.

I have seen a sugar farmer with a brand new Cat machine that looks like a rubber track dozer with out a blade for getting in the wet fields. Remember we get over 60" of rain a year.

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Drill

03-25-2004 10:10:31




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 Re: Rice Special, Rice Tires, Rice Whatevers ??? in reply to RZ(Wa), 03-25-2004 08:52:03  
Rice tires are those great wide(2 to 3 feet) tires they use on the monster trucks you see on tv. They can be mounted on tracrors, combines etc. Rice grows in very wet ground, so any equipment used needs very wide tires to keep from sinking in the mud.
They are also used on construction and road building equipment that work in swampy and muskeg environments.



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paul

03-25-2004 09:53:32




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 Re: Rice Special, Rice Tires, Rice Whatevers ??? in reply to RZ(Wa), 03-25-2004 08:52:03  
I'm not totally sure on all options, but look at the tires - lugs are 2-3 times as deep.

If it happens to be a small Chineese or Japaneese tractor, you might consider it to be a grey-market tractor - not originally sold in the USA. Very common for those to have rice tires.

--->Paul



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