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Tractors vs. Mules

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IH230

02-21-2004 14:10:07




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Lets talk about tractors. I suppose based on the political postings that if dear old Great Granddad had stuck with a single mule and 40 acres and all his generation had done likewise the world would be a better place today. (Would this forum be the "Mule board"?) Or if dear old Granddad had bought a second F-14 and hired another hand, rather than that Farmall H the world would be a better place. Or, if dear old Dad had bought a second 706 and hired another hand and so on and so on.

Why did our our forefathers buy bigger iron? To increase productivity and drive down costs.

They made decisions not unlike the businesses of today (whether big or small). And, those decisions effected the folks who bred, raised and trained mules, made harnesses, made steel wheels, and so on and so on.

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Bill Smith

02-22-2004 11:37:59




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 Re: Tractors vs. Mules in reply to IH230, 02-21-2004 14:10:07  
Farming is sadly going in the direction that it is not how good you farm, it is how many acres you can farm. Farming has got to the point where it is pretty much guaranteed that you will get a minimum amount per acre weather you raise anything or not (government payments, insurance, ext.) the more acres, the more money. What you actually raise, you can add on top of that. Of coarse if you have a descent crop at all, it gets unlikely that you will collect any insurance money. Hard to explain, but under the right circumstances, you can still loose money. Like if you raise just enough that you don't collect insurance, and your raised bushels per acre + goverment payments compared to expense per acre leaves you with a - figure. That is the situation you don't want to see. You raise good crop, you will make money. You have a disaster, and collect insurance and disaster payments you will likely get back to even or a little over. Anyways, bottom line is the number of acres you farm is getting to be more important than how many bushels per acre you actually raise. Farmers are better off to do what ever it takes to farm more acres. Bigger equipment is the first step in doing that. Then buying/renting more ground. Hiring more help. You can hire a semi full time farm hand for 10 to 20 thousand a year. That is just pocket change for somebody that is buying $150,000 tractors. Another example of corporate America making all the money and the good old minimum wage American farm hand getting screwed. By the way, I work for an incorporated farmer, and then small time farm on the side for myself. Probably real stupid on my part but would rather drive tractor for living than work in a factory. I like doing something different every day. Farming, there is never two days the same.

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John Ne.

02-21-2004 21:42:28




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 Re: Tractors vs. Mules in reply to IH230, 02-21-2004 14:10:07  
Farmers with more than 40 acres always relied on plenty of full and part time hired hands, when WWI happened that resource dried up fast, and interest in tractors grew. WWII it happened again, plus the need for the increased production to FEED THE WORLD, as the posters said. By the 50s the manufacturers were seeing the light and the horsepower race began. Get and read a book called, 40 Acres and Independence, how a fella can get along on that much and a team. Definitely harder work and long hours, but fewer ulcers. John in Nebraska.

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LesWV

02-21-2004 19:07:52




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 Re: Tractors vs. Mules in reply to IH230, 02-21-2004 14:10:07  
"Why did our our forefathers buy bigger iron? To increase productivity and drive down costs."

More productivity to feed the troops during WW2. With all of the people going off to war and to the factories to supply them equipment to fight with. The American farmers were ask to produce more. That in turn had them buying more and larger equipment.



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Burrhead

02-21-2004 20:54:05




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 Re: Re: Tractors vs. Mules in reply to LesWV, 02-21-2004 19:07:52  
one more thought Les.

When our pappies were stepping up production it was for more income. If you did'nt grow and sell it, then nobody owed you a dime.

That's in stark contrast to todays corporate farmer that live to get paid for crop loss, CRP, layouts and no-pay loan defaults.

If we still used mules we would'nt be around these infernal computers. We'd sit around the mule barn on rainy days and shoot the bull.

Some youngsters never got the chance to see a real operating mule barn.

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