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stan

02-18-2004 01:08:40




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I took my alternator in for a rebuild, and the service dept. haden't seen one like it. Since my MF was assembeled in Poland I guess the Alt. came form the same place. It has a internal regulator.I would like to install one made in the USA. What would be a vehicle that comes with a alternator, with a internal regulator that I could install on my MF?




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Greg F.

02-18-2004 09:51:09




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 Re: Alternator in reply to stan, 02-18-2004 01:08:40  
Yep, the 10SI is the easiest one to add. Easy to wire too. You will more than likely need to make brackets or make changes to your existing ones. Pretty easy though.
Anything I have that the alt goes out on that has a weird one on it gets one of these instead of spending a bunch of money on the old one. I have put these on boats, skid loaders and tractors and had good luck.

If you need it, somewhere I have instructions for wiring one up properly.

Greg F.

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stan

02-18-2004 14:45:58




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 Re: Re: Alternator in reply to Greg F., 02-18-2004 09:51:09  
If it has more than one wire I am in trouble. I was at the end of the line when they were passing out electrical knowledge. I saw the alt. you were talking about. The one large wire I know goes to the bat. side, but there is a spade terminel with two connections I will need help with these. Thanks Stan



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John----LONG WITH PICTURE

02-18-2004 23:01:37




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 Re: Re: Re: Alternator in reply to stan, 02-18-2004 14:45:58  
The wiring of a Delco 10SI can be done in several ways depending on what accessories you have or want on your tractor.
Do you have a amp. or volt meter?
Do you have or want a idiot light?
Do you want to spend the extra money to get a self energizing alt so you only need one wire?

This is a typical wiring diagram.

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Since I do not know what you have or want I wiil just tell you how I wire it and if you need something else you can post back.

First you will need a short 16 gauge jumper wire to go from the BAT terminal to the #2 terminal.

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Now you will need a 10 gauge wire to go from Bat. terminal to the battery side of the starter solenoid. You can mount a ammeter in this wire but I do not.

If you got a low energized Alt. that is it. All of the 10SI Alt. will charge with this set up but if you do not have a low energized Alt. you will have to rev. the motor to get it to start charging. Once it starts it will charge at a idle. I do not like revving a cold motor or spending the extra on a low energized one. If you want to price one click HERE

For a regular 10SI you will need to add the field wire. This is a 16 gauge wire that goes from the #1 post to a idiot light and then to the run side of the IGN. switch. If you do not want a idiot light you can use a one amp/50 volt diode. I use the idiot light since I do not have a ammeter.
HOPE THIS HELPS

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John's diagram/pictures

02-18-2004 23:47:46




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Alternator in reply to John----LONG WITH PICTURE, 02-18-2004 23:01:37  
just to add a comment to John's excellent wiring diagram and picture of the Delco 10 SI with #2 sense wire installed. It about scares me to death every time I see uninsulated quick connector terminals on the regulator of a Delco alternator. These terminals are a tiny fraction of an inch from shorting to the alternator case. If the wires are bumped/pulled,and the #2 sense wire shorts it will burn up the BAT wire in the harness. If the #1 exciter/field terminal shorts it will burn out the diode or burn up the field wire if no diode is used. PLEASE PLEASE spend the $1.50 for a replacement Delco alternator plug with pig tail wires attached and prevent burned wiring and possibly a tractor destroying fire.

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John

02-19-2004 09:51:21




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Alternator in reply to John's diagram/pictures, 02-18-2004 23:47:46  

Very good point!!!!
I did not even pay attention to this when I got this picture from another web site. (stole it ) ooooo oo!!



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bob

02-18-2004 20:50:13




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 Re: Re: Re: Alternator in reply to stan, 02-18-2004 14:45:58  
that is all explained on Big Dean's web site. Go to the Massey board & look him up. A link will take you there.



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John

02-18-2004 06:42:57




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 Re: Alternator in reply to stan, 02-18-2004 01:08:40  
Most use the Delco 10SI alternator used on 75-85 GM cars and trucks. Available at Auto Zone and others for about $30.



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david val

02-18-2004 04:16:06




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 Re: Alternator in reply to stan, 02-18-2004 01:08:40  
most of the alternators today have internal regulators. you need to find an alternator that matches the size anchorage and positioning of yours an be able to supply at least the same amps. some alternators shuld have a terminal for the tachometer. check this point. you may have to make alerations to the alternator circuit on the tractor.
david



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TO35

02-18-2004 02:48:54




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 Re: Alternator in reply to stan, 02-18-2004 01:08:40  
There are lots of internal regulated alternators out there, the most popular by far are the gm versions.

TO



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Kenneth Perry

07-12-2005 06:17:37




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 Re: Re: Alternator in reply to TO35, 02-18-2004 02:48:54  
I recently purchased a Yanmar tractor and the dealer assured me that the only thing wrong with the tractor was that it needed a charge on the battery. I charged the battery to no avail. I purchased a battery that the tractor killed immediately. I have not let the engine run for an hour total since the purchase. What do you think the problem could be. Oh, I did notice that none of the lights were connected.

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