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FOULED FARMALL PLUGS

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BULLDOG

02-02-2004 14:41:50




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I have two farmall H's and a 400 all of which invariably foul the middle two spark plugs. All three tractors have recently been overhauled and have great compression. The 400 had the carb, governor, and distributor professionally rebuilt. It has 12v electronic ignition and a 50,000 volt coil. All the tractors run great under a load with clean plugs but foul quickly in the barnyard or parades.

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grazer

02-03-2004 05:45:17




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 Re: FOULED FARMALL PLUGS in reply to BULLDOG, 02-02-2004 14:41:50  
We have several h's&M,s we us aroud the farm and did the same thing. spark plugs can make a big dif. But the easiest fix is when you fill them with gas put a cup full of diesel fuel in the tank. This will help them run warmmer when just idling around the farm.I know it sounds crazy but it works.You will see it on temp gauge.



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FWIW...

02-02-2004 18:58:32




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 Re: FOULED FARMALL PLUGS in reply to BULLDOG, 02-02-2004 14:41:50  
Don't know if this means anything but I've had seven Farmall's, Cub through M's, some ran, some stuck, and ALL had Champion plugs in them. One has the same plugs in it that I got it with, even though it was stuck. Got it unstuck, cleaned and gapped the plugs and it fired up and runs good now. Run what works for you. D21's have worked for me.



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Hermit

02-02-2004 18:54:15




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 Re: FOULED FARMALL PLUGS in reply to BULLDOG, 02-02-2004 14:41:50  
I had the same problem with my M. Finally found the middle, right head bolt was torqued slightly less that the others. The oil transfer tube to the rocker arms runs right next to the bolt. I think a small oil seep into the cylinders had developed over time. I re-torqued the bolt to the upper limit and the problem went away. I believe a compression check would not show any problems since you have oil pressure in the tube sealing any air leakage.

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Jared in VT

02-02-2004 18:15:37




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 Re: FOULED FARMALL PLUGS in reply to BULLDOG, 02-02-2004 14:41:50  
Bulldog, Champion D18' & D21's are pretty common plugs for Farmall users. I'm a little suspicious of the "this plug good, that plug bad" school of thought. Al Unser used to stump for Champion plugs. How could Al be wrong? One spark is better than the other spark? My SMTA fouls everything unless I use mid octane gas. Burning mid octane gas with Champion D21 plugs it runs perfectly no matter the job, the weather or the load. I hauled Hemlock logs out of the woods all day today in sunny, twenty degree weather. Lots of time idling, not much of a load really just crawling around in the snow. I change the plugs every spring weather they need it or not!
Good Luck.

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r4etired

02-02-2004 17:53:10




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 Re: FOULED FARMALL PLUGS in reply to BULLDOG, 02-02-2004 14:41:50  
I have several 4 cyl Farmalls. In those that foul plugs I use Champion D18Y. Have had Good luck with them



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Red Dave

02-02-2004 16:54:06




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 Re: FOULED FARMALL PLUGS in reply to BULLDOG, 02-02-2004 14:41:50  
Yup, common problem on Farmalls. They like to work hard and will foul plugs quick when they have to loaf.
Brokenwrench has it right, many folks have troubles with Champions. I use Autolite 386's too, solved a lot of my troubles when I changed from Champions. Don't know exactly why, but it makes a big difference.



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Brokenwrench

02-02-2004 16:35:54




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 Re: FOULED FARMALL PLUGS in reply to BULLDOG, 02-02-2004 14:41:50  
If you are running Champion plugs,remove them and throw them as far away as possible. Try Autolite 386. If the tractors aren't getting up to temperature,replace the thermostats or block the radiators partially to get up around 180-190 degrees.Loafing around in cold weather will foul the plugs if the engines aren't getting up to temperature.



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Nor.Al.

02-02-2004 16:54:57




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 Re: Re: FOULED FARMALL PLUGS in reply to Brokenwrench, 02-02-2004 16:35:54  
A too rich fuel mixture can cause this a black soot is the tell tale sign. Its been several years since I adjusted mine and I have forgot the procedure, but there is several on here that can tell you.



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Joe (Wa)

02-02-2004 22:04:51




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 Re: Re: Re: FOULED FARMALL PLUGS in reply to Nor.Al., 02-02-2004 16:54:57  
I will 3rd that. Changed from Champion D16 to Autolite 386 on both my Case tractors. Handles the low load and idling much better. Joe



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BIG NORMAN

02-02-2004 15:49:21




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 Re: FOULED FARMALL PLUGS in reply to BULLDOG, 02-02-2004 14:41:50  
IS THERE ANY WAY YOU CAN GIVE THESE TRACTORS A WORK OUT PUT THEM ON A LOAD ABOUT A HALF A DAY UNTILL THE PIPE BURNS WHITE. PULL THE HAMMER BACK AND HAVE SOME FUN. IT WILL GET EVERYTHING SEATED



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RAB

02-02-2004 15:26:24




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 Re: FOULED FARMALL PLUGS in reply to BULLDOG, 02-02-2004 14:41:50  
The likelyhood of having three blown head gaskets at the same time on your tractors seems remote, unless they have not been tightened down correctly. I would suggest this is a trait of the engines that they don't quite administer equal fuelling to all cylinders at low speed. Perhaps one grade hotter plugs would clear up the fouling on the centre pair and still be OK at full load. You may also find that the mixture is just a bit too rich at the bottom speed range or needs weakening a tad for the parades.
And by the way the energy value of the spark (joules) and voltage rise are much more important than the label on the coil.
Regards, RAB

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Tom in TN

02-02-2004 14:51:58




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 Re: FOULED FARMALL PLUGS in reply to BULLDOG, 02-02-2004 14:41:50  
Bulldog,

You probably already know this, but at the risk of sounding too simplistic, here goes.

Spark plug fouling is caused by incomplete combustion inside the cylinder. That is usually caused by oil or antifreeze entering the combustion chamber. As soon as the plug begins to foul a little bit, it gets bad really quickly because then it also has unburned gasoline on it.

I think if I were you I would go back to the old compression check thing. It's painful to do, but you might want to run the engine til it's hot. Turn it off, carefully remove the spark plugs since they'll be as hot as you know what, and run a compression check while the engine is hot.

You might also watch the flow of antifreeze in the radiator while the engine is running hot. If it has bubbles in it, that's not good. It's usually a sign that exhaust gas is getting into a water channel somewhere in the engine. Like maybe a blown head gasket, maybe?

So anyway, it seems to me that you want to see if water or oil is getting into your combustion chambers. By the way, when two adjacent cylinders are fouling, it is often a blown head gasket in the area between the two cylinders.

Good luck,

Tom

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