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mobob

01-31-2004 06:13:56




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I want to keep 5-6 cows around the place to keep grass ate down,but dont want to keep a bull around for that many cows,so what does artifical insemation (sp) cost? im not talking a high dollar bulls juise ha ha ! or would rent a bull work and be the way to go??? thanks in advance PS Ive already been told to handel it my self LOL




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RayP(MI)

02-01-2004 17:25:52




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 Re: OT cow talk in reply to mobob, 01-31-2004 06:13:56  
Compared to the dangers of having a full time bull, AI wins hands down every time. Contact your county extension office - they can probably help you on the details. Costs will depend on how high a quality bull you need. Younger, less respected bulls don't cost the $ the proven sires do. A bull on the place is an invitation to disaster - almost lost my father-in-law to one, and bull was just playing with him! When FIL got home from the hospital, he had to use AI - saw to it his bull was 2500# of history!

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Nebraska Cowman

01-31-2004 10:50:25




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 Re: OT cow talk in reply to mobob, 01-31-2004 06:13:56  
If it were me, I'd buy thin stock at the salebarn, keep them a while and start over. You might buy old cows ready to have their last calf, calve them out and then pound them out later in the summer.



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John

01-31-2004 09:55:30




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 Re: OT cow talk in reply to mobob, 01-31-2004 06:13:56  
Well I raise a few Holstein heifers from birth to freshing from time to time. I use AI only because like you the cost and "HANDLING" of a bull is more than AI.
You will need a head gate or some means of holding the cows to AI. The hardest part of AI is watching your cows to see when they are in heat but with the new drugs it makes it a lot eaiser. It is not worth the trouble of training and keeping the needed equiptment to do it yourself for 6 cows, just pay a AI person to do it for you. The Vet can usually tell you of one in your area. While you can only get proven registered stock through AI it is not that bad. I pay $35.00 and up per cow/visit. If I use drugs to synchronize all coming into heat at the same time The cost is lower per cow as only one trip is needed. This proven stock will greatly increase the genetics of your herd as you will be able to afford a lot better stock with AI verses buying a bull.
As far as renting a bull that is very hard in my area. You have to know someone very well to chance your bull getting sick from some one else's cows. New cows should be quarantined on a new farm to stop the spread of disease onto your farm.
If you need to know anything else about AI or the synchronizing drugs just ask as I will be happy to help.

John

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Sid

01-31-2004 08:57:43




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 Re: OT cow talk in reply to mobob, 01-31-2004 06:13:56  
I vote to go AI. A technician can give them a shot to bring them in heat at the same time and will know when to come back. I would not want a rtent a bull no telling where he has been and what nasty thing he may bring with him when he is dating your cows.



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Brutus

01-31-2004 08:09:29




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 Re: OT cow talk in reply to mobob, 01-31-2004 06:13:56  
cost isn't the issue, AI is clearly cheaper and safer. the issue is,can you do an adequate job of telling when they're in heat? the problem even for full time farmers is catching them in heat and breeding them at the proper time.
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JMS/MN

01-31-2004 08:06:27




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 Re: OT cow talk in reply to mobob, 01-31-2004 06:13:56  
Your cheapest and safest option is to hire an inseminator to do the job. Check with your vet if you don't know which studs have reps in the area- he would know who is available. Then all you need is to detect heat and have some animal restraint available- stanchion, headlock,gates, etc. Nothing to buy. Probably about $10 per service. To do your own- three days of schooling to learn how, buy a tank and breeding kit, etc. runs hundreds of dollars. Did my own 70 cow dairy for 20+ years, but no way you can justify that expense on a few head. Also- now with synchronizing drugs, you could treat all in one day and breed a week later. Simpler than heat detection.

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Paul in Mich

01-31-2004 07:57:22




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 Re: OT cow talk in reply to mobob, 01-31-2004 06:13:56  
Sorry, Mobob, but you arent registered.



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mobob

01-31-2004 23:36:33




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 Re: Re: OT cow talk in reply to Paul in Mich, 01-31-2004 07:57:22  
I know paul the wife tells me the same thing !!!



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kraigWY

01-31-2004 07:04:58




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 Re: OT cow talk in reply to mobob, 01-31-2004 06:13:56  
for five or six cows its cheaper then a bull. I think you will find it doesnt cost that much. You have to rent the equipmentand buy the straws and have one certified in AI to do the job. Check with your feed store or large animal vet. They can tell you how much it cost in your area and who does it. You're gonna find it isn't that expensive at all.



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