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A little OT,but water problems.............

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49 Cubber!

01-25-2004 07:43:48




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This is slightly OT but hey,with all of the OT post anyways..... ...heres the problem:From the start,many years ago our well dries up,Dad goes on the local water system,then it wasnt real expensive to get on,like 50 bucks.Years went by and I moved a single wide home onto the property some distance from my dads house,but close enough to "tap on" to his house for my water.I would pay him a portion of the water bill,help him out on projects and do odd jobs for him t ohelp wit hmy prtion of the bill,plus cause he was my dad and I loved being with him.Well he died and left me his home so I continued to live in the single wide with my wife and kids until we had remodeled the house.I began noticing while in the single wide,water pressure began dropping real bad,but only if we used two things,such as washing machine and sink at the same time.While it was noticeable before when youd do this it was getting worse.When we moved into the house I had hoped that by doing away wit hthe lines to the single wide that would help my pressure problem,it did but only slightly.We have just been putting up with it until now.Now,yesterday I just got fed up with it.At the meter I had ,the meter,then a cut off valve and then a regulator then the pipe to the house and another cutoff under the house.Now what I have is the meter,cutoof valve,double ball check valve,regualtor then pipe to house,underhouse nothing was changed,still just cutoff.We still have the same problem.got a guy from the water company coming out in the morning to help see if we can find the problem.But woulds like your suggestions before he gets here.the only reason Im wanting to correct this problem is I would like to run a line to my little outbuilding right behind the house to just run a small wash sink in there and dont want any problems there.I change the oil in my tractors there and my wife really gets mad when I come in to wash my hand while shes washing dishes.

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Nebraska Cowman

01-25-2004 14:34:36




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 Re: A little OT,but water problems............. in reply to 49 Cubber!, 01-25-2004 07:43:48  
I thought I had water troubles too (see "farmall sunday" post on farmall page) but i got mine fixed :) and i don't have a wife so i can pee, i mean wash my hands in the kitchen sink anytime i want.



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stan

01-25-2004 08:45:32




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 Re: A little OT,but water problems............. in reply to 49 Cubber!, 01-25-2004 07:43:48  
If you discinnect at the city regulator,and have pressure there I would say run new pipe to your house. If there is no pressure at the city regulator it is there problem. If you have iron pipe I would replace it with copper. You may need to peplace thew hole house with copper.



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MT Pockets

01-25-2004 08:39:08




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 Re: A little OT,but water problems............. in reply to 49 Cubber!, 01-25-2004 07:43:48  
I have had some experience with this, so I'll tell you where I would start. First, the regulator. It has moving parts inside. If the community water comes from a well, most likely minerals and rust in the water have restricted the movement of the internal parts. Plus the orifice could be partially plugged with this crud also. I don't know exactly what your check valve looks like, but a swinging gate check valve will provide less resistance to flow. Now the cut off valve. If it's not a ball valve, I would replace it with one. Also the one under the house. There are other things which could cause problems. Is the water main overloaded? (lot of new taps in recent years) Oneof their valves just barely open?If you have good pressure when you first open a faucet and then it suddenly drops, you have a restriction someplace. MY first guess is that regulator. I think I remember a strainer being plugged with rust also. I hope this helps. E-mail if you want to. Thanks. MT. Pockets.

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dhermesc

01-26-2004 06:16:40




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 Re: Re: A little OT,but water problems............ in reply to MT Pockets, 01-25-2004 08:39:08  
If its not in the city regulator you could very easily have some half clogged pipes in the original water lines. This could have gotten worse while your dad's house was sitting empty and the flow lessoned and allowed even more sediment. Does the water line to the trailer hook up before the "main house" or after? How is the flow in the main house?

The first house my wife an I bought had the original galvenized threaded pipe from the 20s. The old people that had lived there hadn't used the upstairs bathroom in years nor any of the outside spickets - all where completely clogged. Ended up replacing large sections of pipe and installing a water softener - made a huge differance.

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49 Cubber!

01-25-2004 10:03:10




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 Re: Re: A little OT,but water problems............ in reply to MT Pockets, 01-25-2004 08:39:08  
The check valve is a double ball check valve,they water company requires at least on after the meter on my side and they put one in in their side of the meter.The double ball has two balls inside of just one,why ball type I dont know and not heard of one until I went to get the regualtions from water company.A few more homes have moved in my community but most went with a well. Iam suspecting a problem with the meter now since everything except the pipe has been changed.I guess it could be a proiblem with a collaped pipe,I am hoping the guy from the water company can verify the meter problem.

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MT Pockets

01-25-2004 13:41:40




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 Re: Re: Re: A little OT,but water problems........ in reply to 49 Cubber!, 01-25-2004 10:03:10  
Cubber, the check valve would be a backflow preventer to keep possibly contaminated water (your well if it was still connected to your house) from entering the community water supply which has been disinfected with chlorine to kill any bacteria which might have been present in the water. I have seen some meters with a plastic strainer in them to catch sand and small gravel. This could also be a possibility. I have seen these stopped up too. The swinging gate check valve won't meet requirements of the Health Department or the water supplier as a back flow preventer. Some areas require BFs. Some do not. When you find the problem, let us know what it is. Thanks. MT.Pockets.

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