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THE BEST TRUCK

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Isidore

01-21-2004 05:07:53




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I know this isn't exactly tractor talk, but its related in some way to it- I'm looking for a good used pickup, to haul around tractors and such.

I have never had one before and I was wondering which one would be the best one to buy.

Chevy? Dodge?, Ford? Any others? Did any one know certain makes/models to stay away from? Any problems that a certain one had to watch out for?
Thanks
Ps. I'm not looking for a new elctronic one that I can't fix- I'm looking for a basic standard truck that won't break down.

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Adam B.

01-21-2004 18:23:20




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 Re: THE BEST TRUCK in reply to Isidore, 01-21-2004 05:07:53  
It sounds like you want a truck to do 'truck stuff' with, rather than all-purpose or a daily driver. It sounds like you're wanting to do a fair bit of towing, so a 3/4 or 1 ton is the way to go.

A manual transmission should be a given. Whether you want/need a 4x4 is up to you.

Your follow-up post mentioned snow plowing and wagon towing as well. I'd want a diesel for sure to do that work. Diesels can cost a lot more for parts, but seem to require much less maintenance (replacing parts, etc...) than gas engines.

If you decide to go for diesel, Ford or Dodge would be my preference. Dodge has the Cummins. Ford's diesels (all by International I believe) have a pretty good record. We had 1984, 1985 and 1988 F-350 diesels that worked great on our farm. Dad switched to Dodge in 1993 for the Cummins and traded in 2000 to get the new high-output version. From our experiences in the early '80s and what neighbors and mechanics around here have said, GM hasn't put a reliable diesel on the market. However, if you decide to go with a gasoline version, I'd have to put a word in for GM. You can literally build 'Chevy' V-8 engines from all aftermarket parts, and build several complete engines without using the same manufacturer's parts twice. That means parts are abundant and possibly less expensive than parts for other brands. There are lots of aftermarket parts for Ford too (not as many for Dodge), but the aftermarket GM parts pool is more like an ocean.

Good luck shopping, and I hope you find a good deal. You might want to pay for a title check (like Carfax) on any truck you're seriously considering so you know how many times it's run down some oak trees or been at the bottom of a river. When pulling a trailer, having dual rear wheels makes an enormous difference in handling. You may want to check prices on those when you're shopping as well. Also, 1-ton duallies with a diesel engine and manual transmission should be fairly common, compared to a 3/4 with that equipment.

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Wes

01-21-2004 15:06:10




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 Re: THE BEST TRUCK in reply to Isidore, 01-21-2004 05:07:53  
I like ford trucks. I have a 77 F-150 with 300,000 plus miles and I have only had to work on the tranny (Only 7 miles to the gallon though). I also have a 87 F-250 6.9 diesel. It has 200,00 miles plus. It runs great and has good power. THe only trouble with the diesel is the price for parts.



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isidore

01-21-2004 12:51:21




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 Re: THE BEST TRUCK in reply to Isidore, 01-21-2004 05:07:53  
Thanks for the feedback guys, Would a diesel be better than a gas or vise versa?
I'm gonna use it for alot of farm work as well,
snowplowing, wagons, etc.



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rustyfarmall

01-21-2004 13:42:10




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 Re: Re: THE BEST TRUCK in reply to isidore, 01-21-2004 12:51:21  
Gas, much less costly to maintain and repair, and the fuel economy will be the same.



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kyhayman

01-21-2004 11:29:35




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 Re: THE BEST TRUCK in reply to Isidore, 01-21-2004 05:07:53  
I have to agree with the other post that the best truck is the one that's paid for and doesnt live in the shop. I've had Dodges, Fords, Chevys, and Nissans. Gas and diesel in the Dodges and Nissan. Wish I could still get a new Nissan diesel, best truck I ever had. All were good trucks but all had their own problems and quirks. If you want no electronics you are going to have to go back to the early 70's. My own personal biases are against GM trucks from the 70's (rust), Fords from the 80s (that blasted computer on the side of the distributor), and GM diesels. Right now I've got a 75 Ford F350 with a 390, a 2001 Dodge 2500 with a Cummins, and a 2003 Dodge Dakota with a V6. All good trucks, I like the Dodge diesel the best, drive it the most. Dakota is a good truck (my 3rd one)but spouse insisted on an automatic and it doesnt get any better mileage thand my diesel (plus I like the extra room in the big truck, I'm over 6'1" and weigh 240). Down side is the diesel will get stuck in a mud puddle (both it and the Dakota are 4x4) while the Dakota will go most anywhere (I'm calving now so that's important). The old Ford is getting some problems and I dont trust it for long trips any more plus it is a gas hog (about 8 mpg) but it's got a 12' steel flat and comes in handy. I'd like to find a contractors dump for right to put on it.

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David

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rustyfarmall

01-21-2004 08:00:05




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 Re: THE BEST TRUCK in reply to Isidore, 01-21-2004 05:07:53  
Just for kicks I'll throw in my 2 cents worth, the brands you mentioned are all good. Granted each manufacturer occasionally produces a lemon.
If I were shopping for a used truck, I would look for at least a 3/4 ton, with the biggest gasoline engine I could find, and a 5 or 6 speed manual transmission. To keep the cost down even more, forget the extended cab. The only options I would look for would be power steering, power brakes, and air conditioning. All the other bells and whistles will eventually give trouble, and if it isn't there, it won't break.

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42FarmallH

01-21-2004 07:46:31




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 Re: THE BEST TRUCK in reply to Isidore, 01-21-2004 05:07:53  
Had all three... 82 Dodge D250 w/318 4-speed has been good (1 clutch and 1 carb kit in 125,000 miles), several Fords from 1982 thru 1998 - none of them have EVER been in the shop, not even brakes, usually run them to about 140,000 before trading up. 98 Dodge Cummins has been OK, but a little spendy to maintain (clutch, tranny, oil leaks, etc.) only 125,000 on this one.

GM - bad luck with several of them, fiance's Dad has a 96 GMC 1500 that is in the shop at least once a month, only 100,000 miles on it too. Sorry, but in my family GM's have had bad luck.

Right now I'm driving an 88 F-150 4x2 that I paid $2750 for w/76,000 miles. Trouble free, paid for, looks good, does everything I need it to. For hauling tractors I would go with the F250 though... Just my $0.02 worth...

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Jim

01-21-2004 07:04:27




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 Re: THE BEST TRUCK in reply to Isidore, 01-21-2004 05:07:53  
I worked for an auto parts supplier, we made parts for GM and Ford. Quality was always the main concern of Ford and they were fussy. It was not so with GM.
Personaly, I found this easy to believe because my Fords and Chrysler products have all performed many times better than the few GM products that I have owned.



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Gary

01-21-2004 06:33:19




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 Re: THE BEST TRUCK in reply to Isidore, 01-21-2004 05:07:53  
Chevrolet or GMC for sure, Dodge would be my third choice. I would rather get out and walk before owning another Ford. Had more trouble out of one Ford truck than all the GM trucks combined. Good luck to anyone who owns a Ford, your going to need it.



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Bill

01-21-2004 14:45:23




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 Re: Re: THE BEST TRUCK in reply to Gary , 01-21-2004 06:33:19  
gary you must work for GM. I have owned 3 fords. I have one 2000 F-350, a 89 F-150, and the first one I bought back in 68.



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TomF

01-21-2004 07:09:08




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 Re: Re: THE BEST TRUCK in reply to Gary , 01-21-2004 06:33:19  
Gary
Sorry to hear about your Ford troubles. We have 2 1986 F250 4x4 diesels. Bought one new, one used. The one we bought new now has 240000 miles on it. Has had one inj. pump rebuild, one new set of injectors, and 2 or 3 clutches---other than that, nearly trouble free. It's not real pretty any more, but with just routine maintenance and check-up, I wouldn't be afraid to drive it anywhere. MHO. It's worth what it cost you.
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old

01-21-2004 06:13:41




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 Re: THE BEST TRUCK in reply to Isidore, 01-21-2004 05:07:53  
Well the biggest problem with most of the old ones is that they have been run to death, so unless you want to do like I do and go through the whole truck and fix it it your probably better off with a newer one. But if you are willing to go the fix up route I'd get an old chev at least a 3/4 ton. Any of them from around 87 and older don't have much of the computer stuff on them. By the way I have a 69 chev 3/4 ton that I'm going through this summer

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G-MAN

01-22-2004 07:45:54




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 Re: Re: THE BEST TRUCK in reply to old, 01-21-2004 06:13:41  
Ditton on the '67-'72s. Best trucks EVER built. I have a '72 C-20 that I hope to get "restified" this winter and spring myself. Have you seen the '67-'72 website? Here's the site: Link



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MapleStone - Hey old

01-21-2004 10:41:53




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 Re: Re: THE BEST TRUCK in reply to old, 01-21-2004 06:13:41  
third party image

I have a 69 3/4 ton too (as you can see), and I hope to find the time and money to fix it up this summer as well.

Just thought you might enjoy the coincidence.



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old

01-21-2004 11:08:00




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 Re: Re: Re: THE BEST TRUCK in reply to MapleStone - Hey old, 01-21-2004 10:41:53  
Well mine is a chev but it does have the same head lite set up, I put it on because I like the 4 eyes better then the 2 eye. mine doesn't have a bed at this time either



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READ ALL THE POSTS- STILL

01-21-2004 05:44:46




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 Re: THE BEST TRUCK in reply to Isidore, 01-21-2004 05:07:53  
Seems we discuss this every week and everyone likes the truck they own but either had one of the others or know of someone who's just having a terrible time with the other brand. I'd suggest getting a horse for a while or buying a Ford, Chevy, or Dodge and paint the wheels the same a your tractor. I'm sure it will be infalable. Only problem with a horse is the poles for your wagon are getting hard to find and they're very heavy on fuel. There's also a lot of blow-by going up hills but you'll make it.

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jhill

01-21-2004 07:10:53




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 Re: Re: THE BEST TRUCK in reply to READ ALL THE POSTS- STILL, 01-21-2004 05:44:46  
I have to agree this gets tiresome All brads make good ones and bad ones and alot depends on the driver. I have never driven anything but Fords (8 of them) and not had a problem other then normal wear but my brothers new one had an injector go bad in 6000 miles.

Condition is more important than brand in an older truck. You'll be more likely to find a Ford or Chevy because more are made. Find a 3/4 ton that suits you. If you can find one set up for towing even beter.

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Bill in TN

01-21-2004 05:37:34




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 Re: THE BEST TRUCK in reply to Isidore, 01-21-2004 05:07:53  
Not trying to be smart....but the best truck...is one that's paid for...



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Brad in VA

01-21-2004 07:33:04




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 Re: Re: THE BEST TRUCK in reply to Bill in TN, 01-21-2004 05:37:34  
Amen to that. Everytime I go and look at a new truck and see the price tag it makes mine look that much better. Also it seems to run better for awhile. So we have a regular trip to the dealerships.



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jf

01-21-2004 08:26:41




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 Re: Re: Re: THE BEST TRUCK in reply to Brad in VA, 01-21-2004 07:33:04  
double amen-let the other guy absorb the depreciation.



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Pitch

01-21-2004 11:21:54




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: THE BEST TRUCK in reply to jf, 01-21-2004 08:26:41  
Don't matter get a 3/4 ton new enough to have electronic ignition save a lot of futzing around. I drive an 88 chev right now I would have prefered a Ford but around here with the money I had to spend at the time (2800) you don't find a Ford that the wheel wells on the box are'nt rusted through. That Ford straight 6 is a great engine.



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