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Scalpers, unethical?

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Van

01-08-2004 10:26:09




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Looking at the photo ads today. What is the deal with all these people selling tractors and then on the very next ad you see where they are selling the sheetmetal, weights, etc seperately or selling them seperately on the same ad. Nice angle but they dont ever have to worry about selling me equipment. I could see if I bought a tractor and it didn't have weights and I would need to buy some. But please - - - no semi-parted out tractors. "If you buy my stripper I'll be glad to sell you what you need to use it"

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T213R

01-09-2004 07:16:36




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 Re: Scalpers, unethical? in reply to Van, 01-08-2004 10:26:09  
I have noticed, especially with antiques at auction, that if the parts are on the tractor, they're treated as being "free" and if the 3point hitch and toplink are removed (and sold separately btw), the pto shields are removed, the step is removed, etc. those parts are sold for premium bigbucks over on the parts hayrack.

I can see selling the duals off of a tractor, or a mounted loader separately, but I think I'd rather look elsewhere for a complete tractor--or else loudly announce "well then, I'll have to reduce my bids accordingly" to the auctioneer and the rest of the public, right after the auctioneer says "we'll be selling everything separately"!

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Terry H

01-09-2004 06:08:35




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 Re: Scalpers, unethical? in reply to Van, 01-08-2004 10:26:09  
Got some auctioneers around here that are famous for that stuff....."All right...First we'll sell you the tires, then we'll sell the rims they're mounted on." Or the ever popular stunt of breaking up a complete socket set and selling it one socket at a time! Drives me nuts!

Terry H



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Davis in SC

01-08-2004 20:36:19




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 Re: Scalpers, unethical? in reply to Van, 01-08-2004 10:26:09  
Sounds like a machine shop auction I went to. They had a line of lathes, & they had removed tailstocks, taper attachments, toolposts, chucks, collet closers,etc, from them to sell as seperate lots. Even worse, they sold the parts before the machines....



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Bob

01-08-2004 18:58:14




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 Re: Scalpers, unethical? in reply to Van, 01-08-2004 10:26:09  
I would advise that you to buy from a motivated seller. There is no way to know most of the time if parts have been removed for addtional sale elsewhere unless you catch them at it,as you stated in your message that you did. A motivated seller never puts "price is firm" in his advertisement. After a couple of emails with a person you can tell if they are motivated to sell. As a general rule, motivated sellers do not remove parts for resale elsewhere.

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rustyfarmall

01-08-2004 15:02:21




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 Re: Scalpers, unethical? in reply to Van, 01-08-2004 10:26:09  
That's the way the system works. New machinery dealers do it that way also. You have got to remember that items such as wheel weights, hydraulic cylinders, etc. etc. were optional equipment, and were not a part of the original tractor. Plus, someday, you may be looking for an accesory for your tractor, and the part you find just might be the same part that was removed from a so-called "scalper" tractor. If you want a tractor with all the extras on it, all you need to do is go to the auction and be the high bidder.

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Van

01-08-2004 20:42:53




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 Re: Re: Scalpers, unethical? in reply to rustyfarmall, 01-08-2004 15:02:21  
Rusty,
I understand thats how it is done when your buying a brand new tractor, some things are optional. However they shouldn't try and sell me a tractor that they are stripping before your very eyes. I've sold tractors that I've had extra parts for that I didn't include as in a extra starter or set of lights, but I sure didn't take them from a working machine I was trying to sell, It had a working starter. Yes I guess you could option to sell your tractor without the weights that have been on it for 50+ years, just don't insult me by having the lack of class to try and sell them to me in the next breath.

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Mark

01-08-2004 13:56:11




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 Re: Scalpers, unethical? in reply to Van, 01-08-2004 10:26:09  
I usually do the opposite.I sell the tractor complete with weights, fenders, hitch etc. When the buyer starts to dicker and/or whine about the price, I start to remove options to reduce the price.



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Mark in AB

01-08-2004 11:34:16




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 Re: Scalpers, unethical? in reply to Van, 01-08-2004 10:26:09  
it's kinda shady definatley, but it's a free country and if thats how they want to do it, don't deal with them. I could see selling a tractor and instead of dickering on the price having spare parts thrown it. Spare, preferabley not robbed though.



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