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OT: Mad cow disease

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Nat

01-08-2004 09:20:35




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I guess we watch to much TV




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Nat

01-08-2004 09:22:33




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 Re: OT: Mad cow disease in reply to Nat, 01-08-2004 09:20:35  
third party image

I didn't get the link in,I'll try again



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Alvin NE WI

01-09-2004 17:26:39




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 Re: Re: OT: Mad cow disease in reply to Nat, 01-08-2004 09:22:33  
Paul , you stated many good facts in your message.Just about the time when the beef prices were on the up swing this shows up.How Come? I think the smartest thing all of the people could do in this country is turn off the newscast on tv. those ba#*&%$#@* dont and never will know what the h3II they are talking about, and they always keep showing the same cow from England.. Just my thoughts. Alvin

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paul

01-08-2004 12:14:33




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 Re: Re: OT: Mad cow disease in reply to Nat, 01-08-2004 09:22:33  
(I raise some cattle, to start off up front.)

Very much of what we think we 'know' is only a theory. On disease, environment, pollution, etc.

When I was growing up, sugar was poison!!!! Made you fat!

Then it was fats that made you fat!

Few years later, protiens were bad, we were eating way too much protien!

Then in a few years, everyone had to have a NordicTrac in their house to hang their coats & hats on....

Now it's carbo's that are bad, bad, bad!!!!

(Actually, we all should just eat less, & excersize a bit more - sugar, protien, carbs, even fat is all a part of a good diet. But we can't make any headlines, sell any magazines, get someone to watch with that dull headline....)


Anyhow, the whole issue with mad cow: Here in the USA we have taken steps to prevent it; at least make future 'outbreaks' just isolated cases, if ever. Those steps were taken years ago. This particular case is from an older animal, before these safeguards were in place. I'm quite sure additional safeguards will come from this. If their is a link to the human disease, (and there is no real hard evidence yet to be honest about it, but statistically there seems to be a link & there is a theory), it would appear this is a real low risk even with exposure.

I note many countries quarinteened Candian beef earlier, and now US beef. I can understand people want safe food. So do I. Very understandable. I'm not even really upset about the bans - I would hope my country watches my food supply too.

Mad Cow may probably be linked to about 150 human deaths in Europe, right?

How many died from Sars last year? There has been a case of it just last week in the Aisian Rim. Has the world grounded all the planes from traveling to & from these places?

Why or why not? Which is a more serious threat?

Are we humans properly reacting to real threats? Are we focused on real news, or a lot of hype? Is much of this about world control & tarriffs & controlling world imports/exports, or is it about real risk of widespread health threats?

Does 'the news' report real news, or do they report what makes headlines? Is it real news when it's presented so you tune in at 10:00 & it sells cars & aftershave & soap? Is there a difference between the tabloids, the local 10:00 evening news, the cable news networks, and the newspapers any more?

I don't know. Just random thoughts I think about when I go to bed at night.

--->Paul

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bill in MA

01-08-2004 12:34:10




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 Re: Re: Re: OT: Mad cow disease in reply to paul, 01-08-2004 12:14:33  
Yes to the above. Article in CNN today quotes the CDC that the odds of your getting sick is 1 in 10 billion. Pretty long odds.

Funny, I just learned this year that in the U.S, 36,000 people die every year from the flu ! Why is the media going nuts over the flu this year ?

Bill



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old fashioned farmer

01-08-2004 11:15:14




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 Re: Re: OT: Mad cow disease in reply to Nat, 01-08-2004 09:22:33  
Interesting take on the subject. God bless.

--old fashioned farmer



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T_Bone

01-08-2004 11:36:19




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 Re: Re: Re: OT: Mad cow disease in reply to old fashioned farmer, 01-08-2004 11:15:14  
Hi Nat,

That really doesn't supprise me. I had some friends that took 26 family members to a campground on a river in Washington. One of the 12yr old girls died from a bacteria in the water that all 26 people had drank from and without making anyone else sick.

I believe the law of averages is going to make someone sick or maybe even die no matter what food or water we eat or drink. Some people are just going to react at some point, just hope it's not in yours/my family and prayers to the faimly it does effect.

T_Bone

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Paul in Mich

01-08-2004 18:39:23




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: OT: Mad cow disease in reply to T_Bone, 01-08-2004 11:36:19  
While I do not subscribe to a the vast conspiracy theory, I do believe that there is an element in this country and abroad whose agenda is to cripple commerce here in the U.S. They take an issue like Mad Cow disease and with absolutely no supporting data contrive a massive risk factor to instill fear in the buying public. This is no different than the second hand smoke myth. Yes, most people who die of lung cancer were at one time exposed to second hand smoke, but what they dont tell you is that there is no data or statistics to support the theory that those persons contracted the disease because of that exposure. The fact is that the same people also drank milk as a child, but they know better than to link drinking milk to lung cancer, but the data is no more or less reliable. There are web sites that detail the validity of statisitcs gathering. We can all educate ourselves if we question how statistics are gathered and compiled. The Mad Cow scare is just another issue to scare Americans from eating Beef or drinking milk, thus crippling a certain segment of our economy.

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Canada Grant

01-08-2004 23:58:09




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: OT: Mad cow disease in reply to Paul in Mich, 01-08-2004 18:39:23  
Sold cattle on fat market tuesday..... 1181 lb finished limo cross hiefers @ 49 cents [ca] thats 40 cents us..... nieghbour got 18 cents for fat holstien steers.....cheapest hambuger 2.29....dog food 1'29 a can whos getting rich on this scare ?? Aint me.....



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Paul in Mich

01-09-2004 06:10:42




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: OT: Mad cow disease in reply to Canada Grant, 01-08-2004 23:58:09  
exactly my point. When enough of you growers get fed up and quit, isnt that manipulatiing commerce? It all starts with you, not the end user. The market value of your product (which is cattle) should be determined by the market itself, and not by outsiders not even in the loop. Activists are not in the loop. Try soy beans next year.....on second thought.....



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Canada Grant

01-09-2004 20:59:49




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: OT: Mad cow disease in reply to Paul in Mich, 01-09-2004 06:10:42  
All the bean thing takes is a boatload from RR # 2 Brazil and oops price down the limits! I was told all beans province of ontario can produce equals combine losses of the big three states.



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