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Danny Hearl

01-02-2004 16:29:31




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Can anyone tell me the what watt the block heater in on a 1997 powerstroke Ford with 7.3 Turbo. I am trying to see what it costs to stay plugged up all night. Thanks Danny




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Willy-N Easy

01-03-2004 15:41:21




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 Re: Engine block heater in reply to Danny Hearl, 01-02-2004 16:29:31  
Easy to figure that out. Our cost per KWH is about .065 with tax ect figured in so if it is a 1,000 watt heater it would be .065 cents per hour. So if you left a 1,000 watt one on for say 10 hours it would cost you about .65 cents or $6.50 for 10 days. Just do the math for your rates. Mark H.



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Mark in AB

01-03-2004 09:15:17




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 Re: Engine block heater in reply to Danny Hearl, 01-02-2004 16:29:31  
1500 WATT, i would get a timer, in 3 hours at -30, coolant temp is off the cold mark when i first start my powerstroke. All night is a waste. digital timers are about $20, pays for themselves in the first month.



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cj in AK

01-03-2004 09:10:07




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 Re: Engine block heater in reply to Danny Hearl, 01-02-2004 16:29:31  
Bought a house in Anchorage, Alaska 20 years ago & for a long, long, time had no idea what the light switch on the wall near the doorway in the master bedroom controlled. Turned out it controlled the juice to the power outlet on the front of the attached garage. You could plug in the car at the end of the day but you didn't have to energize the heater 'till you rolled out of bed in the morning. 'Bout an hour was just right.

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RAB

01-02-2004 23:51:32




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 Re: Engine block heater in reply to Danny Hearl, 01-02-2004 16:29:31  
Presumably you have a meter which is going round while it is running. Try using that to check the energy usage, and thus the cost. Does it have a thermostat, which might reduce the long term running costs over the initial turn-on rate of energy use?
Regards, RAB



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Wayne

01-02-2004 21:58:32




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 Re: Engine block heater in reply to Danny Hearl, 01-02-2004 16:29:31  
Hey Danny, you might try calling Phillips and Temro. They are are the Mfgs or the Zerostart line of cold start aids. I know their catalog has the wattages of heaters to used in various applications. If your worried about using alot of power, get a ether start kit for your truck. I just put one on my service truck that has a Series 50 Detroit. When I'm out of town working and parked at a motel I can't always plug in at night so while it already has a block heater installed it isn't always practical to use it. People can say what they want about using ether, but if your engine doesn't have glow plugs, or an intake heater to assist in cold starts it isn't gonna hurt a thing. In fact Detroit now has a system for the electronic controlled engines that mates the ether injection system with the computer for even more precise control of the amount injected. The system I just got is just a manual push button type, but it only injects 6cc of fluid at a shot. I have yet to have a problem starting it in less than a couple of revolutions, even on 25 degree mornings, and it hasn't ether knocked a single time since I installed it. Used properly ether can be a nice thing to have, used wrong it is death to the engine. Just my .02

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ex trucker

01-02-2004 21:39:42




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 Re: Engine block heater in reply to Danny Hearl, 01-02-2004 16:29:31  
years ago the guy i worked for claimed it cost about 1 dollar to leave a semi plugged in ovenight. that was cheaper than replacing a starter or 4 batteries..it was also good to have heat in your truck at 4:00 in the morning when it was zero outside!!



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DaveWis

01-02-2004 21:37:15




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 Re: Engine block heater in reply to Danny Hearl, 01-02-2004 16:29:31  
I believe if it is factory installed it will have two block heaters, 600w or 800w. I work at Ford's Twin Cities Assy. and we built the F-series through 1991. The diesels and 460s got two block heaters, but I don't remember if they were 600w or 800w. A dealer should be able to tell you.



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Al

01-02-2004 21:51:07




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 Re: Re: Engine block heater in reply to DaveWis, 01-02-2004 21:37:15  
Hey Dave,how's it going in Twin Cities.I work at Edison and just waiting for the bulldozers to come through,hope that never happens to you guy's.It's a strange feeling losing your job after 26 years.



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DaveWis

01-03-2004 01:28:24




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 Re: Re: Re: Engine block heater in reply to Al, 01-02-2004 21:51:07  
While I am happy we are still going to be here at least for the time being, most of us here are not taking what is happening to you lightly. This "me" attitude that has overcome our whole society is going to do us all in I'm afraid. I sincerely wish all of you the best in the tough days ahead.



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Danny Hearl

01-02-2004 19:54:37




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 Re: Engine block heater in reply to Danny Hearl, 01-02-2004 16:29:31  
I leave mine plugged up anytime the truck is sitting in cold weather and just wanted an idea what it cost me. I am a heating contractor and run heating calls anytime at night or weekends so a timer will not work for me. The reasons for using it are for starting, warm engine, and a lot less battery drain. Thank all of you for the information. Danny Hearl



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Bob

01-02-2004 22:02:49




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 Re: Re: Engine block heater in reply to Danny Hearl, 01-02-2004 19:54:37  
Since you do service work, why don't you whip out your ammeter and see what yours actually draws???



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Russ

01-03-2004 09:27:47




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 Re: Re: Re: Engine block heater in reply to Bob, 01-02-2004 22:02:49  
AMEN



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Danny Hearl

01-03-2004 11:05:16




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Engine block heater in reply to Russ, 01-03-2004 09:27:47  
You two are the kind of people I would love to go on a no heat call at about 2:00 am,10 degrees, wind blowing, and two foot of snow on the ground. You had better get your checkbook out, Russ and Bob. Danny Hearl



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Russ

01-03-2004 18:26:17




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Engine block heater in reply to Danny Hearl, 01-03-2004 11:05:16  
I don't call sevice people at 2:00 in the morning, I usually fix things myself. To many sevice people don't know what to do when they get here anyhow. As to block heaters, I have a meter, I know what we pay for power, and I do math!



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Bob

01-03-2004 15:46:23




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Engine block heater in reply to Danny Hearl, 01-03-2004 11:05:16  
Danny,

I have gone on many heating service calls at 2:00 in the morning, and not at any wimpy 10 degrees.

Here in northern North Dakota, it gets -30 below, as it is supposed to this weekend. Add the windchill to that, and it gets a bit nippy!

That being said, I was not being a smart a$$. No one can tell you absolutely for sure what block heater is in your pickup. I have seen them for the Fords in several wattages. It would depend on what the factory happened to use, or it could have even been installed by the dealer before the initial sale.

Therefore, I thought I was being reasonable in suggesting that you, as a qualified heating serviceman, would be in the unique position to have an AC ammeter with which you could determine the actual amperage, and would not have to guess!

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Danny Hearl

01-03-2004 17:08:21




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Engine block heater in reply to Bob, 01-03-2004 15:46:23  
Bob I took your reply as a smarta## because there are some out there. I am sorry for my last post but too many times I have seen comments used in a smarta## way. Thanks Danny Hearl



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Bob

01-03-2004 18:59:39




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Engine block heater in reply to Danny Hearl, 01-03-2004 17:08:21  
Cheers, Danny, and I wish I could trade temperatures with you tonight!



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jdemarra

01-02-2004 18:47:35




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 Re: Engine block heater in reply to Danny Hearl, 01-02-2004 16:29:31  
My 1985 Ford with 6.9 has a 1000 watt heater, and my three Chevy 6.2s have 800 watt heaters. I use a timer that comes on 5:00 a.m. I leave at 7 or 7:30 and all is fine. Two of my trucks have additonal 1500 watt tank heaters installed - they'll heat up enough to start in less than an hour. I only use them when it's real cold, I'm in a hurry, and forgot to plug in the factory heater.



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buickanddeere

01-02-2004 17:28:41




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 Re: Engine block heater in reply to Danny Hearl, 01-02-2004 16:29:31  
Cheaper than, worrying if will start, extra wear on the starter, extra drain/deep cycling the battery, lower engine efficiency running cold,extra engine wear, extra fuel waiting for it warm up and clear the windshield. Block heater are noy just there to start -40F starting possible. There are to save you money by using less electricity than one small cup of coffee costs.



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Nebraska Cowman

01-02-2004 16:32:08




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 Re: Engine block heater in reply to Danny Hearl, 01-02-2004 16:29:31  
put it on a timer



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